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06-08-2007, 04:13 AM #1
Ordering Competition Prints from the Lab
16"x20" print size, 1/8" to 3/8" thick mounting, laminate allowed... got it!
But my lab has mentioned that they should print my digital files much darker than they would normally for my clients. Is this so? Why? And how much darker should they be printing them?
Are there any other details I need to talk over with my lab?
06-08-2007, 04:23 AM #2
If your lab is experienced with doing competition prints, they should have competition lights they can use to judge how much darker is dark enough so they look good under the lights. This is one of those things we always leave up to our lab since the co-owner is one of the best competition print printers we know. We trust his judgement on this. He's printed literally thousands of competition prints over the years.
06-08-2007, 04:28 AM #3
Your lab should know how dark to print them. And yes they do need to be darker than normal. The reason for this is due to the brightness of the lights at the judging. I am not sure of the candlepower and distance, but I'm sure it is in print somewhere. Some of the others prpbably have that information if you need it. It helps to have this info if you want to setup your own judging environment to evaluate your prints before sending them in to competition. I know others are doing just that. A competition print is so dark sometimes, you would probably throw it away before letting it go out the door. When viewed under judges' lighting, it looks "normal".
06-08-2007, 05:29 AM #4
f16, 1 second at ASA 100____________________
Dave Cisco M.Photog, Cr., CPP, F-TPPA
06-08-2007, 05:47 AM #5
Competition Print Lighting
http://www.ppa.com/files/public/JuryChairManual05.pdf - which is a "Jury Chairman Manual". It states it was revised in 2005. This long and quite interesting document says that prints are lit to f16 @ 1 second @ ISO 100.
When prints are hung after judging for public viewing sometimes the room lights are not very bright - certainly not as bright as the judging lights. When this is the case it is hard to get a good look at the prints since they are printed so dark. I've actually taken a small flashlight with me to shine on the darker images so I can see the detail in them!Stacey West, CPP
06-08-2007, 02:19 PM #6
I used White House for my first comp and made the mistake of not "color correcting" to allowing for the blackest of black on my step mount. Needless to say it hurt my score. And the judges kept mentioning throughout the lectures how many prints didn't score well because of print quality.
Definately make sure your blacks are BLACK!! )
06-08-2007, 03:28 PM #7
Also make sure you have a glossy finish. If you have a matte finish, the print will be soooooo flat under the lights.
06-08-2007, 08:21 PM #8
07-10-2007, 04:29 AM #9
Lee Pargmann New Member
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Mathis, TX
Hi Anne, I'm a newbie on here and know nothing about competition prints. I've been trying to find the info, but it is hard to find. Is there anyway you could tell me who your lab is? Thank you.
Last edited by Lee_Pargmann; 07-10-2007 at 09:04 AM.
07-10-2007, 04:59 AM #10This is why we have always sent our competition prints to someone who specializes in printing themTracy, CPP
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