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06-13-2007, 03:55 AM #1
a late entry...
thoughts? feedback? title?
06-13-2007, 04:21 AM #2
What made you choose to do the step mount bottom justified rather than top justified? Not sure whether I'd like it better the other way; sometimes it's better to just try it and see.
title: Staking His Claim
06-13-2007, 04:34 AM #3
I did that first....
but wasn't happy with it... what do you think?
06-13-2007, 04:53 AM #4
I'd first put a stroke around it...that way it doesn't "fade to black". My concern, however, is whether there is any detail in the sillouette(sp)....if not, the print will suffer. The difference between detail in the dark areas and none is probably 6-10 points.____________________
Dave Cisco M.Photog, Cr., CPP, F-TPPA
06-13-2007, 08:58 AM #5
I like the image best when it is step mounted at the bottom. This puts the bird closer to the rule of thirds "power points" in the lower right.
I agree with Dave about the stroke. It does just fade into nothing at the bottom. I gave it a slightly tighter crop and a stroke. I'm not sure about the color I choose but with a nice stroke it would be better.
I also cloned out the hole on the fence post - I think the sun shining through under the bird is distracting.
Last edited by Stacey_West; 06-13-2007 at 09:11 AM.Stacey West, CPP
06-13-2007, 01:00 PM #6
I am sure he meant ...
I am sure that Dave meant detail in the bird when he said there should be detail in the silhouette. Any of us who have ever been a print judge are used to walking right up to the print to check sharpness. So you can't count on them not noticing a lack of sharpness from the normal six feet.
If any part is less than sharp it might help to blur everything but the bird evenly which will make it appear that much sharper.
06-13-2007, 02:34 PM #7
IMO, this print will not merit. It's a pretty image to decorate your home or studio, but it just doesn't have anything that makes me want to keep looking at it. The greatest images - again IMO - are those that make me think about something, where I can read a story or feel an emotion from looking at the image. Or maybe the image draws me in because the design or color harmony is intriguing or the lines and patterns keep me looking. Here I see a bird on a post and nothing makes me want to look at this again. I think that lack of story to get me involved would be the greatest challenge to this image meriting.
On the technical side, maybe it's the low res file and small size but the bird and post doesn't appear tack sharp on my moniter. I don't agree that there needs to be detail in the bird in order to merit. Some silhottes are a totally black shape and will merit, some have detail visable and will merit. It just depends on each print. The other major challenge is that the setting sun, or brightest part of the image, is behind the center of interest, rather than centered behind the bird, drawing the eye down and back.
If you want to go ahead with this image here are my suggestions. Make it a long narrow slim line - like 4"x20". Extend the background on the left if you have to, to get that long slim line. Sharpen the image so the outline of the bird and post is crisp. Be wary of over sharpening. In PS create a rim light along the top edge of the bird, everywhere it would naturally appear in a back light situation. Mount it so the bird falls at the lower left intersection of thirds. Choose your black mat around the image from the darkest area of the print. Stroke it with a very fine line from the mid orange of the sunset. Title needs to be something to create a story line in the judge's mind because this print doesn't create impact from design and composition, so story needs to carry it. I would call it "Stood Up Again". I am still doubtful that it would merit but I think it will get in the mid to upper 70's with those changes. If the panel has several guys who have been stood up at some time in their life, it might just slip over.
KeithKeith A. Howe
06-13-2007, 04:55 PM #8____________________
Dave Cisco M.Photog, Cr., CPP, F-TPPA
06-13-2007, 07:18 PM #9
Thanks to all for comments.
IMO, this print will not merit.
So...I missed the original deadline because I continued to try to create merit images....I didn't want to send only one print in the case, and I didn't want to send less than merit images. I think my adjusted expectations are getting in the way of just entering and learning.
Sharpen the image so the outline of the bird and post is crisp. Be wary of over sharpening.
In PS create a rim light along the top edge of the bird, everywhere it would naturally appear in a back light situation.
Mount it so the bird falls at the lower left intersection of thirds.
06-13-2007, 07:32 PM #10
I'm not going to comment on the technical stuff but I WILL tell you to pay the extra to have the video critique. INVALUABLE!Linda Gregory