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    Default Competition Worthy?

    If so, is there a specific category that is appropriate?

    I realize the watermarks need to be removed.

    Thanks in advance.


    Title: In My Heart


    A Little Love by njphotog201, on Flickr

    Title: Hold On


    Hold Tight by njphotog201, on Flickr

    Title: The Royal Couple


    The King and his Queen by njphotog201, on Flickr
    Last edited by Glenn_Lesnick; 04-25-2012 at 06:55 PM. Reason: updated

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    Glenn
    Don't mean to offend you
    But if I see one more photo of hands In the shape of a heart
    I think I'll hurl
    Must be a 100 on pinterest
    Keep in mind one of the elements the print is judged on Is impact
    Last edited by Joe_Galioto; 04-25-2012 at 10:53 PM.

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    lol, I've actually seen my photo on Pinterest after it made it to #2 on 500px.com last year. I guess I must have started a trend...

    I appreciate the feedback though! And note - if seeing one more makes you hurl - that's impact!
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    Glen, trust me the heart with hands pose has been around a looong time. I think it's cute the way you did it with the feet.


    One thing that strikes me with the chess pieces is the over heavy vignette.
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    The heart hands thing has been around since the early 1970's. I used to do that pose for babies and brides back in the 1970's and 1980's, but stopped doing that pose about 20 years ago since it was getting old and trite even back then. In fact, Bill Stockwell used to show a shot of the bride and groom's hands forming a heart on his wedding photography lecture tours back in the early 1970's (probably the only people out there who will remember "The Misty Messiah", Bill Stockwell, will be Joe and me). Someone revived it a few years back and showed it on one of the baby photography "tours" and now it's everywhere, and everyone says it's their own original idea. I guess that's what the speaker told the attendees to say to their clients.

    From a judging standpoint, I believe that the three images you posted will all fall in the 75 range. The heart motif has been drastically overdone, so in order for an image of that genre to score really high, it must be done in an outstanding manner. The same for the baby's hand holding the father's fingers. These images fall in the range of an average professional image of that subject matter. The keyhole effect on the chessmen, the contrast being pushed so high, and the color shift in the lower corners will hold it back. Also - chess pieces is a pretty commonly done subject and they are frequently used as subject matter for student projects at a lot of photography schools - so for a chessman photo to score high, it has to be something unusual, since this subject has been done to death too...

    Sorry to deflate your impression that this is all original material... when it comes to most subject matter, it kinda reminds me of a song by "The BareNaked Ladies" - "It's all been done, it's all been done, it's all been done before..." Everything has been done before - the trick is to do it drastically better than anyone else has done it before - or drastically differently from what anyone has done before...
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    hey rick
    how old do you think i am
    bald is a fact of nature, shaved is a choice!
    but your right, a remember bill stockwell ......snooooot
    wasn't it bill that referred to out of focus weddding photos as:
    "through the brides misty eyes" or was that monty
    glen
    i don't think there's anything wrong with doing some poses that have been around forever
    i'ld rather my work looked more like john singer sargent then a mwc with sun flare
    these kind of cute poses always sell well
    competition is a different animal
    the judges look for fresh concepts
    a simple classic type portrait or wedding image can still merit if it's done really well and has most of the elements the judges look for
    fwi : if you are not familiar, get hold of the list of the 12 elements the judges use to score the prints - try google or do a search here in the forum

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    Joe - I thought that you were my age - pushing 90 or so...
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    rick
    are you on drugs.................you could be my father!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Galioto View Post
    hey rick
    how old do you think i am
    bad is a fact of nature, shaved is a choice!
    I thought that you were around my age (around 60 or so really) Darn - that makes me feel so ooold...
    Yeah, I am on drugs - heart drugs, cholesterol drugs, blood pressure drugs, fluid drugs, and some that I have no idea what they do anymore except make a lot of money for the pharmacy every month....

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Galioto View Post
    wasn't it bill that referred to out of focus weddding photos as:
    "through the brides misty eyes" or was that monty glen
    Yeah - that was Bill - a real character - right down to his madras print pants that he always wore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Galioto View Post
    fwi : if you are not familiar, get hold of the list of the 12 elements the judges use to score the prints - try google or do a search here in the forum
    ... here's the link to Bob Hawkins article about the 12 Elements of a merit print...

    http://www.ppa.com/competitions/inte...12elements.php
    Last edited by Rick_Massarini; 04-26-2012 at 06:34 PM.
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    Then again maybe it does pay to post some photos online. I was just contacted by a Book Publishing Company who would like to use the photo above "The Royal Couple" as a cover for a best selling book. They saw the pic on a photography website and asked what my second usage fees are.

    Any suggestions how to respond? Pricing? Second run pricing? Contracts?

    I'd appreciate any guidance.

    Thanks,
    Glenn
    Last edited by Glenn_Lesnick; 04-27-2012 at 03:17 AM. Reason: Removed specific book name and publisher info until finalized

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