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    I see that there is a new category this morning. I'll start this off: how many on here have no idea how to to earn the Photographic Craftsman or Master of Photography degrees ?

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    I don't and the funniest (saddest) thing is I think that I've just earned something without even really trying. I just don't know what I've earned!
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    Howard Kier, CPP Weddings, ABI, MBA and DAD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard_Kier View Post
    I don't and the funniest (saddest) thing is I think that I've just earned something without even really trying. I just don't know what I've earned!
    Hi Howard;

    I'll start with Craftsman. It is the 2nd highest degree that PPA awards. You need a minimum of 13 teaching merits as well as 12 "other" merits. I taught Photoshop in different parts of Pa. as well as N.Y. state, New Jersey, and Maryland.

    For the Master of Photography Degree, the highest that PPA awards, you need at least 13 print merits and 12 "other" merits.

    Once you use merits, for one, you can't use them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D._Craig_Flory View Post
    I'll start with Craftsman. It is the 2nd highest degree that PPA awards. . .
    For the Master of Photography Degree, the highest that PPA awards,
    This is not correct, one degree is not higher then the others. All four degrees are considered equal, just in different areas. An individual member may hold one degree in higher esteem, or find one degree more difficult to achieve then another, but PPA does not rank them or value one above the other.

    The highest honor PPA presents is the National Award, which is not a deegree at all but an award given in recognition of meritorious contributions to professional photography .
    Keith A. Howe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_A_Howe View Post
    This is not correct, one degree is not higher then the others. All four degrees are considered equal, just in different areas. An individual member may hold one degree in higher esteem, or find one degree more difficult to achieve then another, but PPA does not rank them or value one above the other.

    The highest honor PPA presents is the National Award, which is not a degree at all but an award given in recognition of meritorious contributions to professional photography .
    I agree, I would love to have a National Award someday. I've just awarded one to John Woodward last night at the PPC awards ceremony.

    However, the degrees are the highest "earned" awards from PPA.
    Michael Gan,M.Photog.Cr. CPP,
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    D. Craig,

    I am going to correct you on something. Where, exactly, does it say that the Photographic Craftsman degree is second highest to the Master of Photography degree?

    It doesn't.

    The Photographic Craftsman degree is completely separate, and equal, to the Master of Photography degree. A portion of the merits earned for the Craftsman are specific to receiving the Craftsman, and a portion of the merits earned for the Masters are specific to receiving that degree. In no way is one of the degrees superior to the other, for both have qualifications of their own, and are 2 separate - and equal- degrees.

    Furthermore, there are more degrees listed on the PPA web site to note other than these 2, here is what the web site states for degrees:

    Master of Photography (M.Photog.)
    Awarded for superior photographic competence demonstrated through photographic competition, advanced education, and service to the profession.
    (25 merits: 13 Exhibition merits, 12 Exhibition or Service merits)

    Master Artist (M.Artist)
    Awarded for superior photographic competence demonstrated through photographic competition, advanced education, and service to the profession.
    (25 merits: 13 Specialist merits, 12 Specialist or Service merits)

    Master of Electronic Imaging (MEI)
    Awarded for superior photographic competence demonstrated through photographic competition, advanced education, and service to the profession.
    (25 merits: 13 Electronic Imaging merits, 12 EI or Service merits.

    Photographic Craftsman (Cr.Photog.)
    Awarded in recognition of service to the profession as an orator, author or mentor.
    (25 merits: 13 for lectures on approved programs or for positions as instructor or lecturer at approved PPA affiliate schools; 12 Speaking or Service merits)



    There is a misconception that the Craftsman degree is not as important and easier to achieve than another degree. What is important to remember, though, is that those that are not as winded and have a hard time speaking in front of a group may find the Master of photography degree or E.I. easier to obtain than the Craftsman. There are those that may never be a master, yet inspire others through their abilities to share their knowledge of business or other varying aspects of being, then there are those that may never be a Craftsman, yet inspire others in their photographic vision and abilities and inspire others in that way.
    Jackie Haggerty
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    Well stated both Keith and Jackie.

    I hope readers appreciate your writings.
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    i've got to disagree here.
    ok i do hold both degrees, and was certified in the mid-eightys.
    i also earned the highest level degrees available in my state.
    the one i value above all is the masters! for the simple reason that the craftsman can be earned by anyone within a few years or less. go to workshops and speak on a local level, pretty easy stuff. the cpp which you guys hold up like it's the cat's pajamas is about entering average prints! and some people are just good test takers.
    the masters on the other hand is a degree which is not that easy to optain.
    and some might never even when pursuing it for years.
    ok a little dirty background- when i persurd the cpp, the print part was a piece of cake. but, i did take the exam 3 TIMES, that's right THREEEE!
    well, i've never been much for homework. so the first 2 times i never opened the book. 3rd atemp - no problem.
    joe
    Last edited by Joe_Galioto; 03-23-2009 at 10:17 PM.

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    i think i have followed most of this conversation, but for someone just getting started with PPA.... what should be the first baby step to take? certification or one of the levels mentioned above? it's all so confusing in the beginning!!!

    thanks,
    Jamie
    www.foryouphotography.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjgower View Post
    i think i have followed most of this conversation, but for someone just getting started with PPA.... what should be the first baby step to take? certification or one of the levels mentioned above? it's all so confusing in the beginning!!!

    thanks,
    Jamie
    www.foryouphotography.com
    Attend class at a PPA affiliated school like MAIPP. Each class will earn a merit towards a degree. After you've grown as a photographer you can go speak at a guild earning more merits. Attend or teach a Super Monday will get you closer to that degree. Of course you should enter print comp at every opportunity. You just can get any of the degrees overnight. You need to work at them constantly over the long haul to reach your goal.

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