My wife is Sandy from Wilton, California (near Sacramento). She would love to have a reason for a visit.
Originally Posted by Diane Davis
Then I would get to spend time visiting with my Mother-in-Law!! :eek: :eek:
Can you "...... group" make it to Cape Cod, during a NEIPP school session in April, unsure what year: 2009 or 2010 and beyond?
NEIPP school long range planners (I am one) want to have one class that has four instructors - one each for the four full days of Mon-Thur. We need a good mix, so that an attendee will receive some great info for the "mix". An intro time on Sunday evening and wrap-up on Friday morning; we would not ask the instructors to be present the full week. Arrive, teach the day, and leave is the tentative concept. We'd like to keep costs lower to keep tuition lower than other courses. Preliminary Thoughts? George
Originally Posted by Angela Lawson
That might prove to be difficult to get all of them, at one time. I suggest that you work on your state association to bring them in one at a time. I have done that and we had Mark Levesque in April, due to my efforts. Next year we have the Howes and the following year Don. I just gave information to the right people. I've been working on, and still working on, bringing in Jim Lersch. Just start calling and e-mailing your state officers and board members on who you would like to see. If there are any other OurPPA people in your state ask them to also petition to bring them in ... strength in numbers.
WICHITA IS THE PRIME PLACE.
Don has family here, Jeff and Carolle love it here, not far from everyone, Stan's coming next week,
Okay, we have an airport here but there are many who would prefer to fly into KC. We'll rent a van and get you all down here and you can enjoy the beautiful scenery along the way. The Flint Hills are to DIE for. The locals don't always see the beauty but my husband and I go out of our way to go through them every chance we get.
We also have beautiful models!!!
I dunno... Get you all in one place? I don't think much of the right type of learning would be going on! (not that I'm much better)
That's so funny, Linda... I was thinking Kansas would be perfect because it's in the middle of the country, so all the East coasters and the West Coasters would have the same amount of travel required! Haha! Oh, and it's probably fairly inexpensive there, I would bet.
Originally Posted by Linda Gregory
And what's this about a van?? A van?? Nah... we need a tour bus.
Okay, a tour bus.
Thing is John, I've studied with these guys and even when they're cracking us all up, they're teaching. It's like it's in their blood.
Trust me, you remember the jokes and when they've got good info in them, it really helps!
I have been around them though only once... Funny thing is I remember the jokes but after that things get a little foggy...
I'll be at Jeff's class on Monday. Maybe he can fill me in on what I've forgotten.
I don't like to rain on anyone's parade, but if you guys are serious about this, you should know what you are getting into. By my count you have listed 8 people you would like to have speak. Let's do some rough figures. If a plane ticket runs an average of $300 and you have two nights hotel for $100 - That's $500 minimum expense to get each speaker there. That's $4000 before you even start paying any of them for speaking fees. You would need to compensate these people somehow because they would each be giving up at least three days of studio time. You can't expect them to do it for fun. Just for illustration, lets say $500 a piece. That's another $4000. I don't know about the other people, but my sponsorship only aplies to speaking for associations, not private run events. So you can't count on sponsorship money to cover these expenses.
Then you need a location. Even in NE it's hard to find a location for free. That's why our state events are held outside of our major cities. Because the meeting rooms are free if you also have a meal function each day. So now you have to add meal costs to the grand total. Then there are all kinds of other little costs that add up- like renting equipment if speakers need something, compensating models, promoting and advertizing the event to draw in attendees. So once you add all those costs together, you divide by the number of people you can expect to attend to figure what you have to charge minimum for registration. If you have a huge turnout- you might end up making a profit and then you have IRS issues.
Then you have logistics, getting speakers back and forth from airports, making sure the right equipment is in the room at the right time, lining up models, who is gonna be in charge of collecting registration money ahead of time and should they be expected to run that money through their personal bank account? Or are you going to have a bank account set up for this event? How are you going to promote it? You are going to need at least 100 attendees to cover expenses and I don't believe you can get that just by promoting on this forum. All that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Next, how are you going to pick a location and what date are you going to shoot for? There is never going to be one location or one date that everyone will be happy with. Someone might say they are in - but when it is set to be 500 miles away in the middle of their senior season, they might decide it's not worth it. There are a million events out there and you are competing for attendees with all those other events. Some of those events have well run associations behind them, or corporate sponsors like Marathon or Canon. And you would be competing agaisnt their marketing power. I feel flattered that you put my name on this list, and maybe I am well known on this forum, as are the rest of that list- but are we well known to photographers who do not participate here? Well known enough to draw people from distances? I don't know about that.
I am not saying this can't be done, but I think there are a million issues that need to be considered before someone takes this on. Just don't walk into it without an understanding of what you are undertaking. If one or several of you are willing to work this hard to arrange all this, then go for it. But this is why associations have whole boards of people, because it's not easy to arrange events of this size. Especially with volunteer labor. I have been through a board of directors and been conference chairman for several events, so in this case I do know what is involved. I will be a big supporter and cheerleader for anyone who wants to give this a shot. I just don't want it to fall apart halfway through planning because it is more work then you ever imagined.