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Roger_Williams
09-12-2007, 05:53 PM
Yesterday while I was out, I saw this huge line of grain semitrucks waiting at the elevator for their turn. The line was so long I decided to do a panoramic but that made the trucks pretty darn small at the front of the line. the second shot does not really show how long that line is but it does show some emotion of the guys waiting in line.

Question, are either of these competition quality and secondly, can you combine two pictures, one above the other?

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/194852014-L.jpg


http://www.smugmug.com/photos/194851997-L.jpg

Thanks

D._Craig_Flory
09-12-2007, 06:35 PM
Hi Roger;

I like the 1st one a lot better than the 2nd one. It's a shame you aren't a Master. That would work great in a long slim presentation. But as a non master you are stuck presenting on a 20" X 16".

Get rid of the wide white accent line. It draws way too much attention to itself. I would use the least amount of pixels where you can still see it. I'd also select a tone from the wheat fields.

You have the line of trucks going across exactly on the bottom third line. What will probably hurt is that very fact ... a straight line. If you could have had a vantage point where you captured them going in a diagonal it would have worked better ... maybe going from a low quadrant to a high quadrant.

I would flip it so the trucks enter from the left and end at the mill on the right side.

Roger_Williams
09-13-2007, 02:25 PM
Hi Roger;

I like the 1st one a lot better than the 2nd one. It's a shame you aren't a Master. That would work great in a long slim presentation. But as a non master you are stuck presenting on a 20" X 16".

Get rid of the wide white accent line. It draws way too much attention to itself. I would use the least amount of pixels where you can still see it. I'd also select a tone from the wheat fields.

You have the line of trucks going across exactly on the bottom third line. What will probably hurt is that very fact ... a straight line. If you could have had a vantage point where you captured them going in a diagonal it would have worked better ... maybe going from a low quadrant to a high quadrant.

I would flip it so the trucks enter from the left and end at the mill on the right side.

Does this one work any better or am I just waisting my time. This is a recrop to get the trucks off the verticle line but it does not get them from one quadrant to another.

Thanks

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/195177986-L.jpg

D._Craig_Flory
09-13-2007, 03:05 PM
Hi Roger;

I like the new accent line much better ! It doesn't scream "look at me". I'd enter it. A good title might help. "Grain Convoy" ? "On the Way to the Mill" ? I'm not thinking of any really good ones at the moment.

My one concern is sharpness. A lot of judges will get up to look close at the print.

The guy to ask about this image is Keith Howe. Not only is he a Master but he lives in Nebraska and so sees a lot of grain trucks so maybe can give you more about it. Good luck !

Keith_A_Howe
09-13-2007, 06:02 PM
Roger
D Craig is right about the accent line. In this case I would flip this image as the trucks are pulling (pun intended) you into the elevator. Sharpness is going to be important on the trucks and elevator. I like the impact of the image but feel it lacks "guts" in print quality. This is very hard to tell in low res files here on the forum but it seems a bit flat or muddy looking in the elevator area. You need to keep detail in the shaddows but I brought the shaddow slider up a but for this image. Is there more corn field in the forground??? I added a bit to show what I would like to see. This makes more of a story in my opinion and makes the horz line of the trucks more in the third line of the actual image. To answer your question you can have more than one image on the board, it is up to you as to the importance to the story and wheather it adds to the impact or distracts.
I did 2 samples of the image. First one is plain and the second is a ghost image in the background. See what you think.
Keith
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/grain.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/grain2.jpg

Keith_A_Howe
09-13-2007, 06:11 PM
After looking at it again I decided that the ghost image could be distorted to make the truck tires a leading line to the elevator as well. For what its worth. Keith
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/grain3.jpg

Keith_A_Howe
09-13-2007, 06:42 PM
D. Craig - not only have I seen these lines, I used to sit in them when I was growing up.

Roger, The more I think about the ghost image, the less I like it. It doesn't add to or improve the story. I'd just leave it out.
Keith

Roger_Williams
09-13-2007, 08:52 PM
Thanks for the help guys. I intended to flip my repost as suggested but forgot to. It is really amazing how much better it looks reading from left to right and after the extra forground was added. You guys are great.

Thanks again.

Keith_A_Howe
09-13-2007, 09:19 PM
Holly just gave me the title - "Bread Line"
Keith