PDA

View Full Version : PRINT COMPETITION -- I Made it In!



DiannaAllen
07-27-2007, 03:12 AM
I'm so excited!! :D :D I actually had one of my images make it into the Competition. It is listed with "Showcase Book" beside it. Can someone tell me what that means?:o This is new to me...never entered before.

Here it is. I don't think I posted this one on here before I entered it so give me your comments.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x277/Dianna58/MistyReflections.jpg

Thanks Dianna

Stephanie_Millner
07-27-2007, 03:33 AM
Dianna, that is just beautiful! Are you selling prints of it? :)

DiannaAllen
07-27-2007, 03:36 AM
:rolleyes: I had not thought of it but hey if the market is there...YES!

Thanks for the comment!

Cindi_K_McDaniel
07-27-2007, 03:38 AM
Wow, this is beautiful. I want a signed copy! Just let me know how to get mine!!! :)

DiannaAllen
07-27-2007, 03:44 AM
Thanks I can't believe it made it.

Dan_Leary
07-27-2007, 03:46 AM
Congrats Dianna!

Jackie_Haggerty
07-27-2007, 03:49 AM
Dianna,

Showcase book means that at least one of the judges thought it should go loan- though it didn't make the loan collection, it will be printed in the showcase book because you did get a 'vote' for loan by a judge. The loan and showcase books are printed by Marathon Press....

Congratulations!!!

DianeDavis
07-27-2007, 06:47 AM
Merit= You Rock.
Showcase= You Rock A LOT.
Loan= You are a Rock Star

Congratulations!!

Not entering= Chicken :(

Andrea_Chapelo
07-27-2007, 12:43 PM
Dianna,
It is a gorgeous print! Congrats. I wish I had the nerve to enter. I am still a chicken:o You GO GIRL!!!

Linda_Gregory
07-27-2007, 12:47 PM
Beautiful! And showcase! Now ya gotta buy the book!

Goes to show us all about that 'Hail Mary' print, eh, Mark?

StaceyDamon
07-27-2007, 01:03 PM
Congratulations!!! Great image!!!!
Me=chicken too:o

Ron_Jackson
07-27-2007, 02:09 PM
Diania congratulations! It is a beautiful image and deserves the recognition it got. I am excited for you.
Ron

Jane_Lydick_Staid
07-27-2007, 02:49 PM
Congrats Dianna, now you are hooked!

Cassandra_Sullivan
07-27-2007, 03:11 PM
Congratulations! That image is gorgeous!

Carl_Bromberg
07-27-2007, 03:29 PM
Congratulations, beautiful print!

Cheri_MacCallum
07-27-2007, 03:44 PM
Congratulations Diana!! Beautiful image!

DiannaAllen
07-27-2007, 04:00 PM
Beautiful! And showcase! Now ya gotta buy the book!

Goes to show us all about that 'Hail Mary' print, eh, Mark?

I'll be sure I get one! Thanks

andiegoodman
07-27-2007, 06:19 PM
Congratulations, Diana. The photograph is stunning. It would make great notecards, too.

Tracy_McGee
07-28-2007, 05:02 AM
Not entering= ChickenThat would be me! :p

Gorgeous print! Way to go!!!! :D

DianeDavis
07-28-2007, 08:06 AM
That would be me! :p



Guess there are a few of us that have our challenge cut out for us for next year!

Thanks Diana and everyone else for setting the bar. So glad you went first and showed us you survived it!

Tracy_McGee
07-29-2007, 12:07 AM
What competition was this?

Congratulations again! I just got the e-mail annoucement. :)

DiannaAllen
07-29-2007, 03:48 PM
Tracy, that's how it's listed on the PPA website and I believe it is just referred to as Nationals. For one reason and then another I just never got things pulled together to enter the VPPA or SEPPA competitions. I decided what the heck and entered this one first. I have never entered a print in competition before.

When I told one of my fellow VPPA District phototgraphers I had entered this one he criticized me because I was doing it backwards. I told him if I kept waiting for the right time and contest I'd never enter. I actually felt less intimidated entering nationally than at the state level.

I can't wait to get the video of the print critique back so I can see what they had to say about the other 3 that did not make it. I'm planning on tweeking those accordingly and entering 2008 VPPA.

Tare care.
Dianna

D._Craig_Flory
07-29-2007, 04:11 PM
Hi Dianna;

It's funny you should say that. Over the last 30 years I've seen images that were merit images at PPA not get an 80 and a blue ribbon in our state competition. I've also seen images score so-so that went loan in PPA. So you never know.

One advantage to entering Imaging over lower competitions is the number of judges. If an image gets one judge excited, and it does not get the thumbs up and a merit ... they can ask to have it sent on to another panel. I believe there are five panels.

DiannaAllen
07-29-2007, 04:31 PM
After the horror stories that followed the judging at our state competition I was glad I did not enter there. So many people were SOOOO disappointed after that event. One thing I did notice when I looked at the winning images was the creative (Painter & graphic special effects) images seemed to be what was winng there.

I like those but don't have time to learn it at this time.

Dianna

Linda_Gregory
07-29-2007, 04:36 PM
At HOA (www.hoappa.com), we have affiliated judging so if it gets over 80 there, it's sealed and an automatic merit when you submit it to the Int Comp.

I was lucky enough when I volunteered this last year to work IN one of the three rooms where judging took place so I could watch the progression.

Two of the four I entered were sealed so I had two more to consider. I ended up reworking one and starting from scratch with the other.

So, for me, entering both makes sense. I was able to get a pre critique at our state level and a more intense one at HOA.

It has all definitely affected my photography, all for the better. I do find I'm pickier <g> and shoot less because I can see it's not what I want, why bother?

Tracy_McGee
07-29-2007, 05:53 PM
That boggles me that someone criticized you for entering, regardless of where you entered. All I keep hearing is just do it. Tweak it as needed, just do it. I bet that person felt silly! :p That has to be an awesome feeling.

I didn't get to attend the print judging in February, but I did go to the after program where I guess after watching print judging online recently, is very similar to judging, but they've already been judged, and the panel simply discusses why things scored how they did. There was one judge who a few times said "I just don't do (insert whichever it was the judge didn't do -weddings maybe?) so they aren't my thing and why I didn't score it that well." I know I had an obvious look of "say what?!" sitting there. It surprised me that a personal opinion played so much of a role and could do so much harm. And hence scared me away from entering SEPPA. The guy that I've shot weddings with and become friends with that I met in February is an amazing photographer who has gone loan several times and I believe been photographer of the year etc. He didn't receive one single print of his as an 80 or above in February. I'm working between now and February on doing a few soley for our annual next year.

Cheri_MacCallum
07-29-2007, 07:00 PM
There was one judge who a few times said "I just don't do (insert whichever it was the judge didn't do -weddings maybe?)

In a case like this, the other judges usually jump on that one for making such a stupid statement. That person should not be judging if that's the case or at least moved to another panel if there are any! "I just don't do it" dosen't cut it! Good work is good work and while a judge may not be a specialist in an area of photography, that's why there are more than one judge and challenges. Before anyone jumps on me...yes I do judge!

Linda_Gregory
07-29-2007, 07:07 PM
Cheri,

I believe she was referring to a nonaccredited judge. You will hear that in the smaller venues where many times they just use the speakers as judges and they can only speak from their own experience.

I agree, good is good but there are many enhancements that one can only use personal opinions on without training.

One of my images submitted to our state level was critiqued so harsh, I felt like trashing it in embarrassment. Luckily, I was encouraged by others to do a bit more work and resubmit at HOA. Yep, it was sealed there.

Auralee_Dallas
07-29-2007, 07:17 PM
Linda--you are so right. If you believe in an image, at least give it a try. I'm not sure, but I will look through the posts. I "think" one of the images that was deemed "not a competition" print did get a merit.
Also, the one thing I did notice was that the images that got feedback here on this forum did quite well.

Cheri_MacCallum
07-29-2007, 08:49 PM
I believe she was referring to a nonaccredited judge. You will hear that in the smaller venues where many times they just use the speakers as judges and they can only speak from their own experience.

I've honestly never seen this even at the local levels. The local events I've been involved with have always had qualified judges. I guess it might be different in different parts of the country!

Tracy, where was this?

Tracy_McGee
07-29-2007, 09:35 PM
The VPPA annual convention.

Cheri_MacCallum
07-29-2007, 09:50 PM
The VPPA annual convention.

This should NOT be happening at a state convention!!!

D._Craig_Flory
07-29-2007, 11:10 PM
The print master should take a judge like that aside to reprimand them for an ignorant statement like that and / or the print competition chairperson. They should be reported to PPA also.

This is why you must have gone through judging school and to get the accredited judge credentials.

Tracy_McGee
07-30-2007, 03:15 AM
I seem to remember a conversation about how they chose some of the judges by who was there anyway speaking (I could be wrong, that was yet another fuzzy memory)???? I also remember something being said about not doing that again. I don't remember who it was who said what. If I had to pick the judges out of a lineup of people I probably couldn't do it. This was the first time I have ever sat in on something like that, so there is always a possibility I took something out of context since I was fairly clueless sitting there to begin with. So I wouldn't get too up in arms. ;) I do remember the general idea of the comment though, and then me feeling kinda irritated at an opinion playing such a role even though I hadn't entered, but I don't even remember what type of photography the judge didn't do and didn't get. It wasn't during the actual judging. It was after the fact when they were putting different scoring images on the turntable thingy and discussing how and why they received the scores they had. It was a scheduled program. I had so much I was trying to absorb from it all that my head was swimming and that wasn't significant enough to me at the time to remember the details super well. I promise to pay closer attention to such things in the future now knowing it is indeed a not so good thing. ;)

D._Craig_Flory
07-30-2007, 02:32 PM
Hi Tracy;

In our state,that is a day after the competition. You can take one or two of your images and give them to the print committee so the judges can make comments and suggestions. It is a valuable learning experience !!!

If you remember my image of the two geese that I won a blue ribbon with in April ... the print chairman put it up for review even though I hadn't asked. The judges said they liked my image. But, one comment I never remember hearing before. They said it might have gone into the 85+ category, instead of the 80 it got, if I had 3 geese instead of only 2. They said uneven amts. work better visually than even. So I value and go to the critiques every year.

Tracy_McGee
07-30-2007, 03:22 PM
If it's the one I'm thinking of, I sooo love that image. :)

D._Craig_Flory
07-30-2007, 04:05 PM
Hi Tracy;

I titled it Hut, Two, Three, Four. In case someone didn't see it and is curious ... here is the link to our Pa. state assn. web site so they can watch the slide show of blue ribbon images. http://www.ppaofpa.org/Images-2007%20Comp/BlueRibbonSldSho2007/index.htm It is a good example of what judges are looking for. There is also a slide show of the trophy winners if you back to the main page.