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David_A._Lottes
06-21-2007, 09:53 PM
So I'm showing off my version of Dan Leary's "Pool Shot" to my old mentor and she tells me if I PS the flowers out so the judges don't know it's from a wedding it will hang. I know I need to crop or clone out the book shelves but I'm not sure what else it needs. Any thoughts? Her suggested title is

(Another one bites the dust)

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/Dlottes/9Ball.jpg

Dan_Leary
06-22-2007, 01:03 AM
David,
That is seriously one of the best compliments a guy can get. I hope it hangs and scores huge... maybe some crystal for good measure. When and where do you plan on entering it? Definitely keep me posted.

David_A._Lottes
06-22-2007, 11:46 AM
From you keyboard to God's monitor. :)
First test will be a fall convention. If it does well then regional next spring. Thanks again Dan!

David_A._Lottes
06-25-2007, 01:20 PM
Gee.........Thanks for all the help gang. :p Just kidding, I know how much you all love me. :o

So here's the first re-work. I've cropped it square and painted out the flowers, chair and TV. Then I lassoed the background and blurred it to hide the paint job, still working on that, I see a little spot by the cuff that I missed. My next questions are....

1. Loose the shadow on the ceiling?
2. Use the yellow from the 9 ball for the stroke or a green from the table?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/Dlottes/9Ballcopy.jpg

D._Craig_Flory
06-25-2007, 01:48 PM
Hi David;

I've been studying your image ever since you posted it. But I didn't get an inspiration about it till now. Here is how I see it .... 1000% different. The curved line came in from the right and I the image flipped and the curved line being longer.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/TheHustler.jpg

David_A._Lottes
06-25-2007, 02:54 PM
Holy Smoke Craig!
That's beautiful............What do I owe you? :eek:

D._Craig_Flory
06-25-2007, 04:35 PM
Hi David;

Just win a blue ribbon , or merit, or trophy with it ... or all three. Then let me know. That would make my day.

David_A._Lottes
06-25-2007, 05:28 PM
So for the sake of Art appreciation 101 I thought it would be fun to put this into an historical context. It is well known that Picasso's contemporaries would hide their current projects from Pablo when he came to visit them. He was just too good at running with someone else's ideas. In fact most Art is derivative. You can find a thousand different paintings by a thousand different artists with the theme (Madonna and Child) but no two look the same. In this case it's (Groom with Pool Que) HA! Hope Dan doesn't mind me pasting his original pool shot into this thread so people can see the source of my inspiration. As Jack R. says, "The difference between inspiration and copy is like the difference between lightening and lightening bugs".

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/Dlottes/Wiseman16_1.jpg

I love Dan's original and I feel that Craig's treatment of my image is radical enough to be considered it's own unique image. In fact I'd have no problem with Craig entering it under Art/Tech if he wants to. Just let me know Craig and I'll send you the Raw file. ;)

So for those of you reading this thread thinking....What the heck, this thing doesn't really belong to David anymore! It might help to understand that this process of inspiration and input from peers is as old as Art it's self. :)

Dan_Leary
06-25-2007, 05:44 PM
FWIW, I thought your original was unique enough to be considered it's own. We could both draw a picture of the same thing but it will be two different interpretations. Isn't that the point of this forum? To plant seeds and share techniques, thoughts and ideas? Like I said... I'm flattered that my images stuck out enough in your mind for you to reckon back to it at your own wedding. And if you get a merit or trophy for it, you can buy me and DC a drink when our path's cross someday.

David_A._Lottes
06-25-2007, 05:57 PM
FWIW, I thought your original was unique enough to be considered it's own. We could both draw a picture of the same thing but it will be two different interpretations. Isn't that the point of this forum? To plant seeds and share techniques, thoughts and ideas?

Bravo Dan
That is exactly what this forum is about. I only hope some of my images are being imitated in the same way. I've gotten to the point where I wait anxiously on Sunday's for your latest wedding.....umm I mean my next inspiration! Same goes for several others who are kind enough to share with us all. I'll post a few from my Saturday wedding tomorrow. I just thought this conversation about influences/sources would be a good one that hasn't been addressed here before and what better way to brooch the subject than a real work in progress.

Will_Price
06-26-2007, 07:24 PM
My take on this classic. This was from a wedding last December and was not a posed shot, the Groom and his brother were playing before the wedding and I happened to be in the right position for this series. This was a nice addition to the bridal album.:D

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fiddlewish/Mick13.jpg


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fiddlewish/Mick14.jpg


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fiddlewish/Mick15.jpg

David_A._Lottes
06-26-2007, 07:28 PM
Very cool Will
Thanks for sharing!

Hey we're getting a "POOL" of these ...Har Har har. :cool:

Dan_Leary
06-26-2007, 11:49 PM
Just goes to show that great minds think alike...

Will_Price
06-27-2007, 02:06 AM
:rolleyes: I dunno, who were you speaking of???:p

Will_Price
06-27-2007, 02:06 AM
Just joking...I really look up to you Dan.

Dan_Leary
06-27-2007, 03:47 AM
Just joking...I really look up to you Dan.

Will, you're like 6'6"... I think the only person you look up to is G. Bob. :eek:

Anyways, I appreciate the compliment but I think we have a very similar style. I see alot of things you've done and thought "Wow, that looks like something I've done (or would do)." In that vein, I'm starting to get couples call about dates that I'm booked... I would be totally comfortable sending them your way if you're willing to travel a couple hours north. If that's something you'd like to do, send me a PM so we don't hijack David's thread any worse than I just did.

D._Craig_Flory
06-27-2007, 12:35 PM
Hi Dan;

Having just had G. Bob as a speaker in Pa. in April, I agree that anyone would look up to see him. :D