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Valerie_Harte
03-08-2007, 02:07 PM
One more... I got Holly's prior post about maternity being overdone now but... what about this one?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/vharte/ThisMomentSmall.jpg

D._Craig_Flory
03-08-2007, 02:42 PM
Hi Valarie;

Now that I like ! I'm posting how I see it ... I lightened up his face. You did have the subject layer for them to be on the 4th quadrant nicely. However, this is one image where that doesn't work. On my version, I left my Bakker Saddle on top so you can see how they fit well in the "saddle'. And, my accent line is a tone from the jeans.

I would have liked seeing cool tone tops to go with the slacks but it works well because it brings the viewers eyes to the tummy and the faces.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/ThisMomentSmallBakkerSaddle.jpg

JohnHeckler
03-08-2007, 02:59 PM
I'll try to comment with my limited experience but after watching judging for 2 solid days at MES ...

Things I like ... the lighting seems nice, directional. The subject is emotive. Judges are not supposed to compare prints, but it is human nature to do so and maternity is a common subject material for the professional photog, so keep that in mind. I think that just means it needs strong impact to grab the judges attention. That is where I cannot really say on this due to my lack of experience.

I think the white shirt being the brightest thing in the image will not help this. The man's braclet won't either. Not sure about the fact that she is wearing jeans ... kinda doesn't fit imho.

Disclaimer: I have approximately 48 hrs of experience watching print competition judging, so take my comments with a serious grain of salt :-)

Valerie_Harte
03-09-2007, 01:19 AM
Here it is... I forgot to take his bracelet off- I will do that in the next version. Do you think I should attempt to change the shirt color?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/vharte/ThisMomentv2small.jpg

Valerie_Harte
03-09-2007, 01:20 AM
I was also thinking of printing this one on metallic- opinions?

Valerie_Harte
03-09-2007, 01:48 AM
And here it is with the bracelet removed and the shirt changed to a cooler blue grey.... I think I like it better cream colored... it seems to draw more attention this way- should I try and make it closer to slightly darker than skin tone maybe???

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/vharte/ThisMomentv3small.jpg

Valerie_Harte
03-09-2007, 01:51 AM
Here it is with the shirts closer to skin tone....

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/vharte/ThisMomentv4small.jpg

Dan_Leary
03-09-2007, 03:01 AM
Val,
I have about 72 hours of watching print judging, so I am far more experienced than John. Joking... joking... I actually pretty much agree with John on this one. I think I would've liked to see the couple on a light background with the clothing choices... it would've given the image a lighter, airier (is that a word?) feel. HOWEVER... it is my PERSONAL preference to photograph these types of sessions with dark clothing on a dark background in high contrast black and white. I think this image would benefit alot by turning it black and white... this image is well lit and wonderfully composed and by turning it black and white you are forcing the viewer to focus on the emotion and composition and less on color harmony. Granted, it doesn't do anything for the fact that the clothing is the brightest thing in the image, but hey, you can't win them all. Just my thoughts... I could be wrong.

JohnHeckler
03-09-2007, 03:11 AM
Here it is with the shirts closer to skin tone....


I like this much better ... maybe try B&W with this version?

Not that you can do anything about this now, but maybe an alternative pose would be to have the man sitting a little more upright so we can see him a little more and it would also have the benefit of creating more of a pyramid composition? Just thinking out loud ...

D._Craig_Flory
03-09-2007, 12:34 PM
Hi Valerie;

I like the changes you made to the tops. Try this, from now on. Take your image and make a duplicate image. (not a dupe layer) Now turn the duplicate upside down and squint at it. What draws your eyes ? Now do the same with the two color versions.

Valerie_Harte
03-09-2007, 12:46 PM
Thanks Craig... I definitely like the last version better for the exact reason you said. What do you think about printing this on metallic?

Dan/John... I'll try black and white. I like the color because the warmth seemed to add to the intimacy of the scene but I am going to look at it again now that I have made other changed.

Valerie_Harte
03-09-2007, 12:49 PM
And here is a b&w... which is better than the first b&w but I am torn....

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/vharte/ThisMomentv4smallbw.jpg

Valerie_Harte
03-09-2007, 12:56 PM
And here it is as a duo tone.... ETA: it looked warmer in PS before I posted, but you get the idea...
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/vharte/ThisMomentv5duo.jpg

Keith_A_Howe
03-09-2007, 01:41 PM
Valerie
I like it better in bw or sepia as you have shown. I appreciate time and effort in changing the shirt color but I would have caught it imeadiately if I had been on the panel and would have scored it down. I like the impact in BW even though it breaks the rules of mixed keys, on this image the mixed keys seems to add impact. I am not wild about the feeling of the kiss, her neck is straining and drawing attention to the cord in her neck (no I am not implying to tone down the cord, it would look wrong). It is hard to say with out seeing an actual print where print quality plays a real part in the score but I feel it will be in the above average range.
Keith

Heather_L._Smith
03-09-2007, 02:00 PM
Let me first start by saying that I really like this image - I think the light is beautiful. My only comment (and there's nothing that can be done about it now) is that the expression in HER kiss is a little off. That probably sounds weird, but the kiss looks forced on her face - almost like her lips are pursed and not 'accepting' the kiss. It may not come up, but then again, I've had some oddball stuff knock points off an image - it all depends on your panel. But, those are my <humble> comments.

Jerry_W._Kelley
03-09-2007, 02:16 PM
And here it is as a duo tone.... ETA: it looked warmer in PS before I posted, but you get the idea...
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/vharte/ThisMomentv5duo.jpg

Hi Valerie,

I like the duo tone best, nice warmth! I copied the photo to my computer to check it in PS and my guess was correct, it was saved in Adobe RGB color space. If you convert it to sRGB, your color and tone will show the same as you saw it in PS because sRGB is the standard for the web.

Jerry

With sRGB color space it's warmer.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/415576464_0acc7c9ed0_o.jpg