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Ryan_M._Glick
02-27-2007, 03:29 PM
Hello All,
I live in Florida, where would I go to take the test and are there any sample tests out there to give me an idea on what they are looking for me to know. I've got an old copy of Photography, that I used when I was in School in 1981-83 at the Art Institute of Atlanta. If someone could help me with this I would really be grateful.
Thanks
Ryan M. Glick

Betsy_Finn
02-27-2007, 03:45 PM
Hi Ryan...

As far as exam dates/location...I did a quick check on the site and didn't see any listed. That doesn't mean there aren't though -- check with your state liason, and also your state affiliate groups... some offer the exam at most conventions, or at least yearly.

there is a study group starting up I believe (http://ourppa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5081)

Anyways, the CPP site, www.certifiedphotographer.com has some information about what will be on the exam (topic you should know), and has a few sample questions. There's also a list of supplementary texts. I wrote mini "reviews" of the books as I read them -- mainly to remind myself what they cover later :p because I'm forgetful. Anyways, those are here: http://photobooks.wordpress.com/cpp-certification/. Another good resource is the companion website for Photography 8e -- I've linked to it on the blog post I just gave you (there are some "issues" with a few questions, but I've listed those on there as well).

Good luck :D

Ryan_M._Glick
02-27-2007, 03:57 PM
Thanks, I'll check those out tonight, I'm on my way to a private barn sitting with 8 horses and 4 dogs.
Ryan

D._Craig_Flory
02-27-2007, 03:58 PM
Hi Ryan;

When are you thinking about taking the exam ? I just gave it at our state meeting on February 11th and will give it again on April 22nd and will give it in June and October too. You are welcome to come to Pennsylvania to take it. One Forum member traveled here from California to take it and was glad she did.

Hi Betsy;

I just noticed that you are over 1,500 posts. Did you get your toaster from Derek yet ? I am now over 1,750 and got some English Muffins to make in the toaster I got.:p

Betsy_Finn
02-27-2007, 04:18 PM
Ryan, no problem!

Craig -- it looks like I am! nope...guess I forgot to put up a fuss about my toaster otherwise I'd have it ;) :)

Ryan_M._Glick
02-27-2007, 11:27 PM
Hey All,
thanks for the info, took the sample test on the site that Betsy gave me, I know I need to brush up on lighting ratios and my color wheel, since not doing alot of darkroom work lately I've forgotten a few of the basics. But will study up and do some reading.
Now off to my digital darkroom.
Thanks
Ryan

Jennifer_Brum
03-01-2007, 07:57 PM
Ryan,

I live in Jacksonville. Usually they give the exam at Florida School. I took it there last year. I'd contact the Florida School organizers and ask them if they are planning to do it this year (June 3-7 in Daytona).

http://www.fppfloridaschool.com/

David_Mithofer
03-08-2007, 03:53 PM
Ryan,

The exam may be given at the Florida School and it will definitely be given at the Florida State convention in Orlando. The state convention is in August. We will post the exam dates and locations at www.certifiedphotogrpaher.com as soon as they become available so in check in there periodically. You will also find sample questions for the test, a study guide, and the certification application on this site.

Regards,
David Mithofer
Manager, Member Services

D._Craig_Flory
03-08-2007, 04:38 PM
Ryan,

The exam may be given at the Florida School and it will definitely be given at the Florida State convention in Orlando. The state convention is in August. We will post the exam dates and locations at www.certifiedphotogrpaher.com as soon as they become available so in check in there periodically. You will also find sample questions for the test, a study guide, and the certification application on this site.

Regards,
David Mithofer
Manager, Member Services

David mistyped the web site. It should read www.certifiedphotographer.com

Ryan_M._Glick
03-08-2007, 09:51 PM
Thanks all, I will kepp checking and I hope to attend one of the classes at the Florida School this June, but may wait until August to take the exam, gives me some extra time to study.

Mike_Frazier
03-09-2007, 07:17 PM
Tell me why I should get certified? I have two master's degrees. One in Secondary Education Instructional Media and the second as a school administrator. I've been a part time photographer for 34 years and when I retire in August of this year I'm going full time. I enjoy print competition and have entered some and plan to enter more, but why do I want to spend the money and take the time to take a test. My work over the last 34 years that I'll hang on my walls will show my customers what I can do.
:)
Mike Frazier
Frazier's Studio
Spring Mills PA

D._Craig_Flory
03-09-2007, 08:32 PM
Hi Mike;

I'll start with a question. If this were reversed and you retired as a photographer and now entered teaching, would any degrees or certifications from photography apply as a teacher ? There is a photographer, in my town, who has a B.A. ... in photography from Brooks Institute of Photography. So, his degree is relevant. Yours aren't. You are starting fresh in a new profession.

Where print competition is the yardstick to measure creativity and competency in images, certification is a way to know where your level of pro photography knowledge falls as well as a way for clients, and potential clients to gauge you as well. There are certified electricians, certified plumbers, certified public accountants, and many more. The general public knows that anyone who has gained that status is a step above the rest.

As an aside ... I hope you will be joining the Professional Photographers of Pensylvania. (www.ppaofpa.org) Our meetings are in the Penn Harris Radison in Camp Hill ... just across the Susquehanna River from Harrisburg .

KirkDarling
03-09-2007, 09:16 PM
Tell me why I should get certified? I have two master's degrees. One in Secondary Education Instructional Media and the second as a school administrator.

And in my state, if you wanted to become a teacher, you would still need to be certified in-state, and probably need a few more hours of instruction.

One thing to point out here is the the track is more akin to that of a craftsman's guild system than an academic system. Someone with a PhD in electrical engineering must still be certified to work as an electrician. A medical doctor still needs certification to be a barber.

However, being a barber or electrician is a matters of public safety, requiring certification is justified regardless of qualification. I've already said that I would never favor a certification requirement to practice photography because it's not a matter of public safety.

We've already discussed why we believe certification is a beneficial idea, but it's always up to the individual whether it's beneficial enough on his own terms. "Should" is a moral question, and it's certainly not a moral issue.

David_A._Lottes
03-09-2007, 09:46 PM
Here you go Mike.

http://www.ppa.com/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=14

This explains it to me. If you read through that and still don't want to be certified then there probably isn't any reason for you to want to be. Different strokes for different folks.

Mark_Levesque
03-10-2007, 01:36 AM
Someone with a PhD in electrical engineering must still be certified to work as an electrician.
So I've been working on a project at MIT, part of which we got from a guy in another division (Ryan). It's a huge mess. I mean, you can't imagine how poorly implemented it is. The structures are nonsensical, it's not documented at all, and is completely intolerant of anything unexpected. It's completely driven me insane. The other guy I'm working with (a PhD name Bryan) told me that Ryan was giving a talk on the part he'd done yesterday. I noticed in the announcement that went out to the whole lab that the talk was being given by Dr Ryan So and So. I mentioned this to Bryan, and he said, "He's a PhD? That explains it. PhDs don't know anything practical." You're talking about the same sort of thing. A PhD would be useless as an electrician. They excel in the theoretical. The practical is why they have me around. :)

Vaughn_Monigold
03-12-2007, 03:45 PM
Tell me why I should get certified? I have two master's degrees. One in Secondary Education Instructional Media and the second as a school administrator. I've been a part time photographer for 34 years and when I retire in August of this year I'm going full time. I enjoy print competition and have entered some and plan to enter more, but why do I want to spend the money and take the time to take a test. My work over the last 34 years that I'll hang on my walls will show my customers what I can do.
:)
Mike Frazier
Frazier's Studio
Spring Mills PA

Mike, Mike. With your experience in the classroom, I can not believe you say you can't see the value of study and a test of what you have learned.

There's a lot of valuable information to be learned about the technical side and the business side of photography. It's there for those who want it.

Also, those potential clients who enter your studio CAN see your work. But there are two weaknesses in that argument:

1. Not all consumers can tell the difference between a picture they see in your place and a picture they see in another studio. They may like it, but they don't know why. They liked the other guy's work, also. So you and your competitor are tied in that category.

2. Not all consumers will even ENTER your studio to see your work. But those who see your advertising, those who receive your mailing, those who see your business card, will see that you are a Certified Professional Photographer. They will assume you know what your're doing. They assume you are better than someone who is not certified... whether they tried and failed the test or whether they felt they were good enough without making the effort. So, when a consumer doesn't know who to call for that portrait or the upcoming wedding, this can give you an advantage over competitors.

You, too, are a consumer. When you want your taxes done, do you hire a bookkeeper whose been doing this to earn extra income or do you call a Certified Public Accountant who must know the latest about tax law changes?

Good luck studying for your Certification.

-- Vaughn Monigold, CPP
M.Photog.Cr.
southcrestgallery@alltel.net