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Chris_Padgett
01-26-2007, 12:26 AM
Thought I would throw another one out and see what kind of reaction it gets. I am really enjoying the thread Jeff started with the competition prints, it gives you an idea what you have to shoot for. Thanks in advance.:)

Chris

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u81/padgettphoto/laney.jpg

Jeff_Dachowski
01-26-2007, 12:28 AM
Chris,
Not sure about the presentation, but one thing that struck me right away that i feel would improve this image, is to elevate the baby so she is not casting a shadow right next to her. Maybe a block, or a 2x6 placed under her would lift her off the "background" a bit.
Jeff

JohnHeckler
01-26-2007, 12:32 AM
I like it, but it needs to move to the upper right instead of lower right of the step mount. Also, anything I say needs to be taken with a major grain of salt as I am a rookie at this!

Consider picking up a color from the flower petals for your stroke line. Some say (Holly!) a mottled background color/texture detracts from the image. After thinking about that, I would have to agree, although I kinda do like the look here.

Ok, I gonna say this won't break 80, but I know nothing! It definitely has the "awh, how cute!" factor, but that may not be enough of an impact for a panel of judges who have seen their fair share of cute babies.

I am pretty sure the one image I plan to enter this year of a baby's foot will fall in that same category. :-(

Dave_Cisco
01-26-2007, 12:36 AM
I think the image needs a stroke around it to keep it from looking like it was just slapped on the mat. The flat lighting might be too much to overcome.

Chris_Padgett
01-26-2007, 12:37 AM
Jeff n John appreciate the comments. Jeff, I don't think I could keep the baby feeling secure and asleep by putting it up on a block or a 2 by 6, but I see what you mean about the shadow. If I remember correctly I only used 1 light for this, I should have thrown in a reflector to fill the shadow side and maybe that would have remedied that issue. This is why I'm posting these images you all are able to "see" things that I can't....yet.:confused:

Thanks

Chris_Padgett
01-26-2007, 12:39 AM
Dave,

It actually has a stroke, it's hard to see. I picked out a green from one of the leaves. Concerning the flat lighting, how would you light this particular image? Thanks for the comments.

Jeff_Dachowski
01-26-2007, 12:52 AM
Jeff n John appreciate the comments. Jeff, I don't think I could keep the baby feeling secure and asleep by putting it up on a block or a 2 by 6, but I see what you mean about the shadow. If I remember correctly I only used 1 light for this, I should have thrown in a reflector to fill the shadow side and maybe that would have remedied that issue. This is why I'm posting these images you all are able to "see" things that I can't....yet.:confused:

Thanks
Chris,
You know better than I do, as I was not there. I have had my images looked at by a lot of folks, and the two things that help me the most is "Next time", and "when you have this file open again, try to doge here, or crop this etc" I found that when I start thinking about the suggestions for next time, I start putting them into practice this time.
Jeff

Chris_Padgett
01-26-2007, 01:19 AM
That's the whole idea Jeff, learn from your "mistakes". I know the step mount is off on this one, but see if you like it any better.

Thanks for taking the time.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u81/padgettphoto/emmaclaire.jpg

Dave_Cisco
01-26-2007, 02:01 AM
Dave,

It actually has a stroke, it's hard to see. I picked out a green from one of the leaves. Concerning the flat lighting, how would you light this particular image? Thanks for the comments.
I'm talking about an additional stroke 1/4 inch from the one you have, on the brown mat, same width as the one you have. How would I light it? ..probably with great difficulty:) , but I still think it needs some directionality(because the judges will be looking for it:D ).

Dave_Cisco
01-26-2007, 02:03 AM
That's the whole idea Jeff, learn from your "mistakes". I know the step mount is off on this one, but see if you like it any better.

Thanks for taking the time.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u81/padgettphoto/emmaclaire.jpg

Might not bother others, but I don't care for a white stroke...too strong of a pull on the eye.

Jeff_Dachowski
01-26-2007, 04:04 AM
Chris,
What bothers me, and this is personl taste is how close she is to the bakground. To me it competes with the subject. I think this is well done, but as Holly said somewhere, well done is not enough. It needs to be better than well done. I messed with the first file a bit, what do you think?

Chris_Padgett
01-26-2007, 04:14 AM
Jeff,

I like what you did with the first image, she seems to "pop" a little better. With the second image she is probably 4 ft. from the background. Can you say "limited space"!!!!!:p Have to work with what you got. I'm trying to come up with 4 prints to enter this year, so I'm sure you all will get tired of looking at my work, but we all can't be Jeff, Naomi, Holly, Keith, D. Craig, Michael, Mark, Will, Dave......etc. But we can TRY.:D

DianeDavis
01-26-2007, 04:16 AM
I think your second image is pretty awesome. If I was the mom I'd buy a big one. The first one is good too. Again the difference between saleable and competition?

Chris_Padgett
01-26-2007, 04:26 AM
Thanks Diane. And thank goodness for saleable. I, like most of us, am my own worst critic. I figure if I can find some images that you all like, I'll be headed in the right direction.