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Jeff_Dachowski
01-25-2007, 02:08 AM
I have seen a lot of interest in the comp thread lately. I thought it might be good to revisit some images that members here have actually competed with. I am not looking for this to be a critique thread, just an ongoing results thread for everyone to compare, better or worse to. I only have a couple here, but I will include the title, and the final score. Hopefully we can see a lot of 80 + as well as some images that just didn't make it.
Jeff
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/deathvalley.jpg
Sunrise Death Valley 79
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/Untitled-5.jpg
Montana Morning 80
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/Mom.jpg
Going Places 80
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/ontheprowl.jpg
On the Prowl 79


Thanks for looking!

Jeff_Dachowski
01-25-2007, 02:10 AM
a few more...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/avasmall.jpg
Birthday Girl, 79

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/kirstie.jpg
Out of time 79

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/kate.jpg
Splish Splash 79
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/jenny.jpg
I take you Andrew 81

Auralee_Dallas
01-25-2007, 02:56 AM
ooooh Jeff, I'll show you mine if you make me some star glasses.
Lovely images by the way.

Sue_Ellen_Tuttle
01-25-2007, 03:28 AM
I was thinking how helpful it would be to see some "real" entries. They are all just wonderful...I especially like "prowl" and "montana morning." maybe I'll do better with these new shades...

Linda_Gregory
01-25-2007, 03:55 AM
I love the last one! Those eyes really hold you in.

I entered last year for the first time and it was quite a learning experience. I entered four in my local KPPA and did fairly well though they were thorough in their critique in what I needed to do to make them PPA comp worthy. I threw out one image as salvageable and finessed the other three. I found a fourth that a local mentor recommended I try. I entered four in the HOA print comp and two were awarded merits with scores of 81 and 83.

To prepare for the international print comp, I knew those two had to be entered as is with the seals on the back to get my merits. For the other two, I sent in one unchanged and the fourth I rejected because I felt it was the best I could make it and it wasn't good enough so I was searching for a fourth.

I chose on with emotion and of course, that doesn't cut it but I still love it.

I've changed computers at home since then but have one--without the stepmount--online and the others will have to wait until tomorrow.

http://www.exais.com/red_on_porcelain.jpg

JohnHeckler
01-25-2007, 04:52 AM
This one scored 82 at the PPO Mid East Regionals in 2006 but then went on to make the Loan Collection at PPA International.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/jthphotography/CPP%20Candidate%20Images/SnowflakeCatchingWarm-Ups.jpg

Marc_Benjamin
01-25-2007, 08:09 AM
Hey John,

What's the title? Also, was it in a traditional mat?

Naomi_Angel
01-25-2007, 08:11 AM
Jeff, did "going places" go loan? I remember seeing it, but now I can't remember which side.

Naomi_Angel
01-25-2007, 08:30 AM
I really like seeing all the images people entered in competition. It is the best comp prep I can think of.

I have never entered comp myself, and I keep thinking I should, but then things come up right around the deadline and I forget.

John_Knowles
01-25-2007, 12:59 PM
Hi All,

This one is called "All That Remains". It was accepted to the loan collection, but I couldn't make it to San Antonio this year, so I didn't get to see it on display:(

http://www.ttrphoto.com/images/RemainsMountVar1.jpg

Marc_Benjamin
01-25-2007, 01:05 PM
Wow, that's yours...... I think I remember seeing it. thanks for sharing

JohnHeckler
01-25-2007, 01:30 PM
Hey John,

What's the title? Also, was it in a traditional mat?

The title was "Snowflake Catching Warmups". I apologize for not knowing what you mean by traditional mount, but it was a digital print, step mount, and on foamcore.

Lori_Clapp
01-25-2007, 01:46 PM
Jeff, this is a great thread. I hope we get lots more posts - it's really helpful to see what people have entered and how they scored!

I love "on the prowl" - it's a great example of a perfect title!!

Jeff_Dachowski
01-25-2007, 01:49 PM
Naomi,
Going Places did not go to the loan places.

Lori, Thanks very much. Unfortunatley it did not merit.::(

I really hope a lot more post images here. I think it could be a valuable resource. I plan on posting a couple more soon.

John and John, Thanks for sharing.

Marc, What's the dealio? Where are yours?
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dachowski/grace.jpg
sweet Grace
78
Jeff

Linda_Gregory
01-25-2007, 01:57 PM
Please tell me, did my link show up for everyone but me or is it missing?

Lori_Clapp
01-25-2007, 02:04 PM
Please tell me, did my link show up for everyone but me or is it missing?

Not sure what link you are talking about - so that probably answers your question!

JohnHeckler
01-25-2007, 03:19 PM
Only 1 of 4 images received a merit for me in my first ever print comp at PPO Mid East 2006, but I sure did learn alot. These were my other entries for the sake of others (ie what NOT to do ;-)

This was titled "Young Innocence" and scored 78.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/jthphotography/CPP%20Candidate%20Images/YoungInnocence.jpg

This one was titled "I'm Thinking" and scored 76

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/jthphotography/CPP%20Candidate%20Images/ImThinking.jpg

And lastly, my 74, titled Karate Kid

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/jthphotography/CPP%20Candidate%20Images/KarateKid.jpg

Howard_Barlow
01-25-2007, 03:51 PM
Please tell me, did my link show up for everyone but me or is it missing?

I see the traditional red x. It was presented quite well, the matting was properly done. Under normal conditions, it should hang, but it is so over-done. Pick another subject for the next one, something fresh and heretofore unseen.

Auralee_Dallas
01-25-2007, 03:54 PM
Marc--show them yours please. Also I just love "On the prowl." What a great title. And John, "All that Remains" is a beautiful work of art. I just love the lighting and the tonality. I could hand that on my wall in a heartbeat.

Sue_Ellen_Tuttle
01-25-2007, 04:19 PM
what's a step mount?

D._Craig_Flory
01-25-2007, 04:43 PM
what's a step mount?

Hi Sue Ellen;

That's what I post a lot on here. Originally, after taking a class on them I did them by hand. Labs would do them ... for hundreds of dollars. If you did them yourself you ordered a print. It was mounted on a thin board. Then that was trimmed. An accent was added ... sometimes getting the lab to print a monochromatic print using one color from the image. That was adhered to the back and then trimmed so just a bit showed. Next you used a matte board in a color that went well with the image. (it had to be mounted on another board to make it competition thickness) You would take it in the spray booth and give it multilple coats of hi-gloss laquer. (I sometimes used 6 coats or more)

Finally the image layer was placed on top of the matted board and moved around till it was positioned well. It would be mounted to the background board. A whole lot of work !!!

Now I do them using Photoshop. Attached is my Photoshop Lesson on them.

Betsy_Finn
01-25-2007, 04:45 PM
Take a look at John's images above -- they don't take up the whole 16x20 canvas, and are step-mounted with a line and background color to "fill out" the space. Unless you're a Master Photog. you have to submit images 16x20 size....and you might not want to crop your image...

[oops Craig beat me to the punch! (his is a good "detailed" version -- if you want a tutorial on doing it, his PDF file is good).]

Jane_Ann_Long
01-25-2007, 05:08 PM
"Half Cup Please" 87 Illustrative Photographic Open Distinguished Print...Illustrative General Distinguished ... Judges Ribbon

Sue Ellen - this is a good example of a Digital Step Mount. I posted this on another thread so sorry for the repost but I am going to add the critique from Keith in hopes it might help others understand the elements of this image alittle better.

"Jane Ann
This is a wonderful image and yes I remember it!! For others benifit part of what makes this image so strong is the use of color. Just as monocromes can be used to depict mood the contrasting color familys make this image dynamic. It (the image) almost reaches out and shakes you, demanding attention. The cropping and title are also very good. You have a very artistic eye."
Keith
__________________
Keith A. Howe M. Photog., M. Artist, Cr.


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m264/Janeann_01/PPA%20Images/half_cup_please.jpg

Marc_Benjamin
01-25-2007, 06:40 PM
hey guys, ok here's mines...

http://www.kickstep.com/marcssamples/05printcomp/entries/16x20heavenlyday_std.jpg
Heavenly Day - thumbs up at PPA Nationals + showcase book

http://www.kickstep.com/marcssamples/06printcomp/HipHopBaby.jpg
Hip Hop Baby - 86 western states (w/ merit) regional + PPA showcase book


http://www.kickstep.com/marcssamples/06printcomp/LeftHanging.jpg
Left Hanging - Thumbs up Nationals + image of the year in Sacramento and (wedding) SF local affiliates.


http://www.kickstep.com/marcssamples/05printcomp/16x20BenchedBride.jpg
Benched! - 88 Western States regional + best wedding entry, best wedding entry in PPC and PPA loan collection.

Thanks for looking

Andrea_Chapelo
01-25-2007, 06:48 PM
;

Now I do them using Photoshop. Attached is my Photoshop Lesson on them.

Thanks for the tutorial..I have been wondering how you do that:D Now I am going to to try it out. Yippee!!

D._Craig_Flory
01-25-2007, 08:33 PM
Hi Group;

Here is an engagement protrait I created along the Susquehanna River at the Pa. state capitol of Harrisburg. It scored a 76 in Pa. annual state competition in 2006.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/DawnOfLove.jpg

JohnHeckler
01-25-2007, 08:37 PM
Marc, those are awesome! I remember some of them from somewhere ... I think maybe you posted them here once before? Very, VERY nice. I especially like the "Left Hanging" and "Benched". Great titles as well.

D Craig, what did the judges like/dis-like with your 76?!?!

D._Craig_Flory
01-25-2007, 08:39 PM
Hi group;

Here is a near miss ... literally. It's a portrait of a little lady and scored the dreaded 79... titled "Precious".

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/Precious.jpg

D._Craig_Flory
01-25-2007, 08:49 PM
Hi group;

This image scored a 79 in 2006 Pa. state assn. annual competition and was titled "Aerial Ballet". It was created in Atlantic City, New Jersey when the PPA Convention was held there.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/AerialBallet.jpg

Marc_Benjamin
01-25-2007, 09:51 PM
Hi Auralee,

Let's see yours? Just one, pretty please..... how about "The Lookout"

Auralee_Dallas
01-25-2007, 10:19 PM
I'm not going to post the Lookout because I'm sending it to PPA this year. I will post some past Merit prints.

Catch Me--Western States 84--PPA nothing. This image and Vintage Dawn 81both got sealed but I didn't know what that meant at the time so didn't send to PPA.
Yes I was blonde before I was grey.

Auralee_Dallas
01-25-2007, 11:51 PM
Next ones:
A Girl and Her Flute: 81 at PPC-Nothing at PPA
Three Canoes: 83 at PPC-Merit & Showcase at PPA
Veiled Fountain 79 at PPC-Merit at PPA

Auralee_Dallas
01-25-2007, 11:52 PM
This is the Veiled Fountain

How do you make the writing come inbetween the images?

JohnHeckler
01-26-2007, 12:10 AM
Dang girl, you got it going on! Those are wonderful images!

When you say it scored above 80 locally, doesn't that mean an automatic merit at PPA?

As far as getting text between images on a post to the forum, you need to host your images somewhere (like Photobucket) and put the ... tags around the URL. Then the images appear inline and you can have text before and after, etc.

Jeff_Dachowski
01-26-2007, 12:11 AM
Auralee,
Thank you so much for posting this work. I really enjoy vintage Dawn, like enjoy it enough to want to hang one in my living room. Lets talk. To put the writing between, you need to copy the link, then write what you want, then copy another link, and write what you want.

Marc,
The work is lovely. Congratulations on a great year. You should be so proud of all you accomplished.

D Craig,
thanks for posting these. Do you have any more?

John,
If I had not said it before, thanks for posting. Your images, although they did not hang are so close. They have a nice fell to them.

Anyone. Please keep this going as it is so helpful to me, and I hope others see just what is and is not making it, and how close that line can be.
Jeff

Lori_Clapp
01-26-2007, 12:16 AM
Wow Auralee - I'm impressed!!!

Lori_Clapp
01-26-2007, 12:18 AM
"Jeff Dachowski since 1971
Star glasses wearer before 1-07
Certified Professional Photographer
Director New Hampshire Professional Photographers Association
Rickenbacker owner since 1989
www.DachowskiPhotography.com"

Jeff, If this gets any longer, you won't be able to put any words in your posts - your signature will put you over the word limit! Lol

I agree, these images are great! And very helpful. Please keep them coming!

Jeff_Dachowski
01-26-2007, 12:24 AM
Lori,
Like Pooh Bear, I (my signature) is stuffed with fluff.
Jeff

Jeff_Dachowski
01-26-2007, 12:25 AM
[QUOTE=Lori Clapp;53923

Jeff, If this gets any longer, you won't be able to put any words in your posts QUOTE]


Lori,
Your statement has been greeted with a standing ovation forum wide.
Jeff

Holly_Howe
01-26-2007, 01:13 AM
When you say it scored above 80 locally, doesn't that mean an automatic merit at PPA?

.

Depends - if the local was an official affiliate judging with PEC approved jurors then yes - if she sent it on to Natuonal it is an automatic merit. If it's a non affilate judging - it could score 100 and still not merit at National. Also if it has a seal ( print scored 80 at an affilate judging gets a"seal" on the back) it has to be sent to the next National judging. If you hold it for a year - the seal "expires". I did see images at National this year with expired seals - and they did not merit this year. SO! send them in! Don't take that chance. In case anyone is concerned - I did point it out to the jury foreman in the room I was working. He roved the print to another panel to give it an additional shot.

Holly

Holly_Howe
01-26-2007, 01:14 AM
Auralee! Your are so hot you would sizzle if I touched you! NICE work!
Holly

Keith_A_Howe
01-26-2007, 01:22 AM
Auralee, For your information and for those others out there.... If you entered a print at your regional judgeing and recieved a seal of approval (80 or above) it does get an automatic merit if you send it on to national that year. If you did not send it on you still can it just has to go as though it was not previously judged (in other words the merit is not automatic and it will go before another panel of judges that has to see it as a merit). You can not re enter it at your regional judging a 2nd time. So keep these prints and use them to fill your case if you don't have all 4 get seals some time (in my case that is almost always the case) you all ready know they are good ones.
Keith

Keith_A_Howe
01-26-2007, 01:37 AM
Okay here are some of mine. Before anyone jumps on me - I have already had one print stolen by another photographer in Idaho - so it can and does happen. By the way this first print up is the one he took. It scored 97, went loan, Kodak gallery, and cover of PPA mag. This is a copy of the image from loan book so quality is not good.

Splendor in the Grass
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/SplenderintheGrass.jpg

Graceful Vessel- scored 79
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/Zogg5.jpg

Living on the Edge - EI print no score - straight to National went Loan and was in magazine
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/wavebirdsEI.jpg

Swept Away scored 95 went loan this year
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/sweptaway.jpg

Keith_A_Howe
01-26-2007, 01:38 AM
Siblings scored 84 went loan this year
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/siblings.jpg

Daddy's Girl scored 79 this year - so no 4 for 4
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/Crnic20791620.jpg

In Focus scored 90 something went loan - all done in camera - no PS
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/infocuscomp02.jpg

Preflight scored 82
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/balloonposter1.jpg

Keith_A_Howe
01-26-2007, 01:39 AM
This is Your Brain On Drugs - merited 81 or 82? & Showcase book
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/rust1114.jpg

By Any Other Name scored 85
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/rosecomp2002.jpg

I Said Gecko not Geico - merit - don't remember what Showcase book
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/Gecko1114.jpg

Art Appreciation merited & Showcase book
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/meusem11xflat.jpg

Holly_Howe
01-26-2007, 01:45 AM
Splash - don't remember score - I think 85 - went Loan
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/splish.jpg

On a Quest - don't remember score - went Loan
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/dunes.jpg

This is Keith's Heading Home - it is me - taken in MA - on Grey mountain? scored 83
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/Holly.jpg

Sue_Ellen_Tuttle
01-26-2007, 01:53 AM
Wow.

Lots of things falling into place, here.

Valerie_Harte
01-26-2007, 02:07 AM
Sue Ellen... I concur.

I am looking at the 80 vs under 80 and hearing all the comments in my head about space and lighting and placement. This is a wonderful thread!

And for those of you who are wondering... yes... the voices only speak to me. LOL.

Tiffany_Schmitt
01-26-2007, 02:19 AM
Holly,

Can you explain why Daddy's girl didn't score higher? What on earth kept that back?

Thanks

Tiffany

Keith_A_Howe
01-26-2007, 02:21 AM
Holly,

Can you explain why Daddy's girl didn't score higher? What on earth kept that back?

Thanks

Tiffany

I'd like to know too! I would have scored it an 85 HA!!!
Maybe next year they will let me judge my own.

Keith

Marc_Benjamin
01-26-2007, 02:29 AM
Hey Auralee,

Thanks for sharing... I remember seeing "Catch Me" at the 2004 Pasadena convention and read the tittle to the feel of a whisper. Also, I've been dreaming of my own version for quite some time now.

Keith and Holly,

You guys are so awsome...

Holly_Howe
01-26-2007, 02:39 AM
Keith and Holly,

You guys are so awsome...

Yeah - I can see you have stars in your eyes. . .

Holly

Marc_Benjamin
01-26-2007, 02:48 AM
Hey Dave,

Please share some of yours...

Auralee_Dallas
01-26-2007, 03:14 AM
Thanks for all the kind comments on my images. Now if only I could get my portraits up a notch.

Holly and Keith--what can I say--awesome work!!
Siblings--wonderful!!!
And a big thank you for the critiqueing you both do. It's helpful to all of us not only the maker.

I also forgot along the way here to say to Jane Ann how much I love the Half Cup. I just love graphic statements like that--I would think that it would be very sellable. Maybe you said you did that.

Auralee

Jane_Ann_Long
01-26-2007, 04:10 AM
Auralee - thank you for the kind comment. You are very talented. I see the passion in each and every image posted here...just great!

Cassandra_Sullivan
01-26-2007, 12:27 PM
Thanks everyone for sharing! I'm feeling inadequate now. ;)
I must say, however, that it's even more impressive seeing the actual prints. (Not to say what's been posted so far isn't impressive!) You can't see subtle detail and colors on the web. I saw a print competition for the first time last year (didn't enter, though) - and seeing the prints just blew me away.

ElizabethGraham
01-26-2007, 01:26 PM
Thanks, Jeff for starting this thread! It really helps to see some real life examples!

D._Craig_Flory
01-26-2007, 02:34 PM
Hi Jeff;

After all the great images from Masters ... and since you asked, I am posting an old blue ribbon image. It got a score of 81 here in Pa. ... and for those asking about step mounts. This was done by hand the old way ! The title was "Radiant". Now those that think I only do fun poses see I can get serious too. Oh, I know her position on the step-mount isn't great. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and, now that I know much more, there are a lot I would have presented in a different way.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/Radiant.jpg

Keith_A_Howe
01-26-2007, 02:38 PM
Thanks everyone for sharing! I'm feeling inadequate now. ;)


Cassabdra don't let it these post make you feel inadequate. Go ahead and enter. Actually entering and attending the judging is very valuable to your growth as a photographer. It is valualble to your clients as it helps you implement ideas in your day to day work, and it can become a marketing tool as well. In my opinion the fastest way to see your work improve is to get involved with your association, volenteer to work print crew (you see all the behind the scenes activities, hear all the comments from judges and other crew members). When the judging is over, ask the judges one on one for a critique of your images and others that did good and bad. Remember Holly told you about my start, 4 years of not any merits before I recieved the first one.
GO for it.
Keith

Lori_Clapp
01-26-2007, 03:03 PM
Keith and Holly,
All this time I thought you guys were just making stuff up! You guys are AWESOME!!! I love ALL of them! WOW!

Valharte - I'm hearing your voices in my head too!

Cassandra, I feel exactly like you - inadequate - we just need to try harder!!!

Holly_Howe
01-26-2007, 03:06 PM
Keith and Holly,
All this time I thought you guys were just making stuff up!

Ssshhhhh!!! We are!
Holly

Holly_Howe
01-26-2007, 04:09 PM
Balancing Act scored 93 did not go Loan - so high score alone does not guareentee loan.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/4thprinta.jpg

Michael_Gan
01-26-2007, 09:47 PM
Here are two that hung in the ASP Loan Collection this year: The First is :"Third Child, Hard Way (6 year old Quads) and the second is "Curves"

Jeff_Dachowski
01-26-2007, 10:39 PM
HI Michael,
Thanks for posting.

Cassandra, and others here....the reason I started this was so I (we) can learn from images that were made by people we know and can ask questions of. I do not want anyone to feel intimidated. To all , please keep posting it is so inspiring to see such cool work. Thanks!
Jeff

Michael_Gan
01-27-2007, 12:08 AM
All my other ones are already up in the Gallery: http://ourppa.com/photopost/showgallery.php?ppuser=807&cat=500

Michael

Stacey_West
01-27-2007, 04:36 AM
This was my second year to enter images. These prints were judged at the SWPPA in 2006. The print on the left, Evening Commute, scored an even up 80. The one on the right, Sunset Serenity, scored an 81 originally but was brought back and raised to an 83.

Auralee_Dallas
01-27-2007, 04:39 AM
Congrats Stacey!! Thanks for posting them.

Stacey_West
01-27-2007, 04:48 AM
This print, The Treasures of Tuscany, scored a 77 at SWPPA but I still liked it - I just thought it could do better. I went ahead and sent it to nationals where it ended up going loan.

Keith_A_Howe
01-27-2007, 03:14 PM
Good Job Stacey
Just goes to show that different panels can make a difference. If you believe in a print that doesn't seal go ahead and send it on to national. It won't always end up this way but some times it does.
Keith

Dan_Leary
01-27-2007, 03:34 PM
Now their's some glasses I want Keith!

Linda_Gregory
01-27-2007, 03:40 PM
Izzat Elton John I see?!? Shall I look for those later today?

Holly, was this one of those impromptu gifts for your hubby?

Holly_Howe
01-27-2007, 03:43 PM
No - Keith bought those himself - I have better taste!

Linda_Gregory
01-27-2007, 03:53 PM
No - Keith bought those himself - I have better taste!

Whew! I thought, but there are times my husband wants something I really don't like....and I get it for him despite my preferences.

Of course, I will NOT let him wear socks with shorts-not when he's with me!

Jane_Ann_Long
01-27-2007, 04:34 PM
Good Job Stacey
Just goes to show that different panels can make a difference. If you believe in a print that doesn't seal go ahead and send it on to national. It won't always end up this way but some times it does.
Keith

Thanks for that bit of advice Keith. I only sent in my one sealed print because I had been told that if a print didn't make it at regional it would most likely not merit at nationals...:(

D._Craig_Flory
01-27-2007, 04:41 PM
Thanks for that bit of advice Keith. I only sent in my one sealed print because I had been told that if a print didn't make it at regional it would most likely not merit at nationals...:(

Hi Jane Ann;

I worked on print committee in my state for many years. I saw images that were sent to national first and then the makers entered them in state. The interesting thing is that I saw images that merited at PPA, or even went Loan, that didn't get an 80 and a blue ribbin in state. By the same token, I saw images score high in state that scored in the 70's at PPA. YOU NEVER KNOW !

JohnHeckler
01-27-2007, 06:20 PM
Hi Jane Ann;

I worked on print committee in my state for many years. I saw images that were sent to national first and then the makers entered them in state. The interesting thing is that I saw images that merited at PPA, or even went Loan, that didn't get an 80 and a blue ribbin in state. By the same token, I saw images score high in state that scored in the 70's at PPA. YOU NEVER KNOW !

I thought at PPA it was only a thumb up/down for the merit and they were not scored like at the state level?

Richard_J._Carpenter
01-27-2007, 06:41 PM
Here are a few of my images that were accepted. The cowboys is my highest scoring print ever (95) and didn't go any futher. That same year I had print score 79 was thumbed up and went Loan at National. If I like the image I enter and see what happens!
Rick
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/JudsonRickPhoto/cowboys.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/JudsonRickPhoto/MoonLightRide.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/JudsonRickPhoto/image1.jpg

IMG]http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/JudsonRickPhoto/ominousstrorm.jpg[/IMG]

IMG]http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/JudsonRickPhoto/Takingthehardwayhome.jpg[/IMG]

Auralee_Dallas
01-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Absolutely Outstanding. I love them!!!

D._Craig_Flory
01-27-2007, 06:53 PM
I thought at PPA it was only a thumb up/down for the merit and they were not scored like at the state level?

Hi John;

It used to be that scores were given. That's what I was referring to.

JohnHeckler
01-27-2007, 07:21 PM
Hi John;

It used to be that scores were given. That's what I was referring to.

Ah, just showing how new I am to this again :-)

Jeff_Dachowski
01-28-2007, 05:14 AM
To everyone who has posted,
Thank you for making this a great thread. I am humbled at the talent we have here. Please consider posting more. Thanks very much.

Jeff

JohnHeckler
01-31-2007, 04:35 AM
I imagine most of you are familiar with Marathon Press's Loan Collection, Show Case Collection , Kodak Awards, Fuji Masterpiece, etc books, but for those of you who are not, those books are comprised completely of merit images, all in their competition presentation and all (at least I know the Loan and Showcase books are, not sure about the others, but I image so).

I find it a huge source of inspiration and ideas. I know, many of you don't need to study other's works for inspiration, but I am a long way from being there in my photography. At this stage of my career, I am very happy if I can come close to reproducing something similar. Someday I hope to "push the evelope", but right now I am lucky to find an envelope :-)

Holly_Howe
01-31-2007, 05:50 PM
Hey - just to explain further about thumbs - Say at a regional there were 5 judges on a panel, say the scores were 77,78,80,80,80. The average is 79 NOT a merit. Even though a majority of the judges felt it was a merit image. So say you sent this on to National and it went before a panel. If it a majority of the judges on the panel said thumbs up it would merit. It's a simple majority - not an average of all scores. That's why you should always send your prints on to National. ESPECIALLY if you were very close to getting an 80.

Holly

Peter_Quinn
01-31-2007, 08:00 PM
Wow! This thread is great! Thanks to everyone for sharing their work.

Someday....

David_A._Lottes
02-01-2007, 12:09 AM
I just fixed Rick's IMG tags so we could see his other two prints.


Here are a few of my images that were accepted. The cowboys is my highest scoring print ever (95) and didn't go any futher. That same year I had print score 79 was thumbed up and went Loan at National. If I like the image I enter and see what happens!
Rick

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/JudsonRickPhoto/ominousstrorm.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/JudsonRickPhoto/Takingthehardwayhome.jpg

Hope you don't mind Rick. Beautiful work!

Robin_Arkenberg
02-01-2007, 01:46 AM
Just got back from the KPPA convention in Ky.

My prints are:

http://robinsphotography.com/Images/Smokin.jpg

Smokin 82 (Horizon Award)

http://robinsphotography.com/Images/Slitherin.jpg

Slitherin 80

http://robinsphotography.com/Images/Crimson and Gold.jpg

Crimson and Gold 78

AND...

Robin_Arkenberg
02-01-2007, 01:48 AM
The others were:

http://robinsphotography.com/Images/Boys have balls.jpg

Boys Have Balls 78

http://robinsphotography.com/Images/Anticipation.jpg

Anticipation 77

http://robinsphotography.com/Images/Delicate%20Dew.jpg

Delicate Dew 76

Robin

Jeff_Dachowski
02-01-2007, 02:16 AM
Robin,
Thanks for sharing those. I am so glad to see some of the images you posted a while back come back with blue ribbons. Congratulations.
Jeff

Auralee_Dallas
02-01-2007, 02:16 AM
Congratulations Robin, you did well.
Nice imges.

D._Craig_Flory
02-01-2007, 01:49 PM
Hi Robin ;

WAY TO GO DUDE !!! I'm glad that the forum was a help to you .., and now we get to see the results. (nice step-mounts too ... had to say that *S*)

Mark_Levesque
02-01-2007, 02:12 PM
Ok, so here are a few of mine. I'm almost embarrassed to post them after all the stunning images that have been entered so far, but here goes.

First, Chromatic Splendor (I'm awful with names, and all of these were named before I'd ever stepped foot in a competition so I was going in totally blind). Blue in NH, Blue at PPANE, and it's gonna be going to nationals this summer for a merit.

http://www.markspixels.com/images/NHPPAawards/ChromaticSplendor.jpg

Next up, Blossom Ablaze. Red in NH, blue at PPANE, also heading to nationals this summer.

http://www.markspixels.com/images/NHPPAawards/BlossomAblaze.jpg

Violet Ascension. Blue in NH, red at PPANE.

http://www.markspixels.com/images/NHPPAawards/VioletAscension.jpg

Chestnut Solitude, my best selling image (though not in step mount). Blue in NH, not sent to PPANE because it was in an exhibition at UNH of blue ribbon prints.

http://www.markspixels.com/images/NHPPAawards/ChestnutSolitude.jpg

I'd have put these up sooner, but I've been giving my website a facelift and was having some issues getting server side includes to work the way I wanted in my gallery pages, so pages were going up and down like an elevator. Now things seem to have stabilized, which is to say I don't think there are any broken links left.

Holly_Howe
02-01-2007, 03:00 PM
Hey - Nice images Mark.

Could I ask all you guys a favor? If you remember the actual scores could you give them instead of saying blue or red. Not all states award ribbon placings - blue, red etc - on the same scores and also new members don't know what scores those ribbons indicate either.
Thanks in advance.

Holly

D._Craig_Flory
02-01-2007, 03:10 PM
Hi group;

This was a blue ribbbon (80 on the nose) in our state. It was titled "Heavenly Spires". I did it at our state convention one year. I saw an approaching thunderstorm and did it using my ... wait for it ... 4 megapixel Kodak point & shoot digital I was using for fun. The original image had a bland grey sky.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/HeavenlySpires.jpg

Mark_Levesque
02-01-2007, 03:40 PM
If you remember the actual scores could you give them instead of saying blue or red.
I'll look them up. I think all my blues were 80s, and the reds were 78s, but I'll check to make sure.

Keith_A_Howe
02-01-2007, 04:05 PM
Congrats Robin
I'm not looking at the actual print which makes a difference but I think we can tweek Crimson and Gold into a merit. It looks flat to me here. I hope you don't mind but I copied this file and played a bit.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/CrimsonandGold.jpg
I brought the highlight slider in levels up a ways, dodged the highlights to bring out the yellows and the edges of the petals. Then I burned the shaddows to deepen the darker tones a little. I took the dreaded sharpen tool to the lower petal edges as it looks soft here. Generally on flowers you want to make sure it is sharp on the stamin and perferablely on all the petals but the background goes soft. I can't tell on this file, have you run a filter on this image? The stamin look a bit chunky like it has had a palat knife or something run on it. This could be part of why it missed. If this is the case are the stamin sharp in the orginal file?

I think that the profile image is a possible merit but it would need to be re cropped, I think the presentation and crop with the arm may be a problem. Keith

Robin_Arkenberg
02-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Thanks for the compliments everyone. All of you helped so much and I am so grateful.

Our state convention in Kentucky was held last weekend and it was terrific. What a shot in the arm. Our speakers were Nancy Mickle
Emmerich, Don Emmerich, Katrin Eismann, Beth Forester, Michael Ayers, [b]ecker, Jack Reznicki, with a Merit Monday with Doug Gordon. Oh, and just at the last moment, Joe Buissink and Marcus Bell show up and give us an hour of their time too. Great weekend!

Thanks Again,
Robin

Robin_Arkenberg
02-01-2007, 04:14 PM
Thanks Keith. I don't mind any assistance in improving an image. Our state fall seminar had a print competition and it scored an 87. I made changes to that image based on suggestions from Dave Huntsman. The stroke I had was a bit wider. Dave suggested thinning the stroke, and bringing out by brightening the darker areas (almost black) of the red area.

I'll play with your suggestions and see what I can come up with too.

Thanks,
Robin

Keith_A_Howe
02-01-2007, 04:35 PM
David knows his stuff, I agree with the thin stroke, you want it to be an element of frameing but not draw atten to its self. Keith

Heidi_Theriault
02-02-2007, 10:07 PM
Great thread! I have learned so much... humbling. Well, since I learned as much from the less-than-80's as I have from the 80's, I will share.

Title: To Have and To Hold, 77

http://www.heiditheriault.com/images/ourppa/R24.jpg


Title: Ascension, 77

http://www.heiditheriault.com/images/ourppa/P1560.jpg


Title: Reflecting on Our Minuteness, 78

http://www.heiditheriault.com/images/ourppa/I1004.jpg

Heidi_Theriault
02-02-2007, 10:10 PM
Title: Let Me Entertain You, 78 (Judges said she looks too uncomfortable and unnatural.)

http://www.heiditheriault.com/images/ourppa/D029.jpg



Title:God's Promise, 79 (Judges said white clouds were too distracting.)

http://www.heiditheriault.com/images/ourppa/E974.jpg


Title: Wham!, 80 (Yeah! Finally!)

http://www.heiditheriault.com/images/ourppa/M062.jpg

cat_broderick
02-27-2007, 05:00 PM
I'll add my first blue ribbon from over the weekend at PPAM (MA). This scored an 81."Cotton Candy Dreams"

Corrie_Zacharias
02-27-2007, 07:56 PM
I'm not quite sure about linking images, but here goes -

"Hard Frost" got an 82 at the Maine convention:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/CorrieZ/HardFrost3.jpg

And "Watching You" got an 80:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/CorrieZ/WatchingYouWeb.jpg

Mark_Levesque
02-27-2007, 09:18 PM
Gee, Corrie, love that "Hard Frost". A beauty.

Don_Chick
02-27-2007, 11:36 PM
I'll add my first blue ribbon from over the weekend at PPAM (MA). This scored an 81."Cotton Candy Dreams"

Hi "Cat"

Congratulations on the 81 at PPAM! It was a pleasure to meet you this past weekend. You folks in MA had some wonderful images!

Nylora_Bruleigh
02-28-2007, 01:25 AM
Hi Cat!

Great Image! I LOVE it! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
Looks like things are going well for you!

Take Care!

nylora

Corrie_Zacharias
02-28-2007, 01:30 AM
Gee, Corrie, love that "Hard Frost". A beauty.Thank you :)

Karen_Smith
02-28-2007, 09:20 PM
"With Elegance" scored an 85 at Mid East States and passed at Nationals.

Karen_Smith
02-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Well Behaved" scored a 79 at Mid East 06 but passed at Nationals

Karen_Smith
02-28-2007, 09:23 PM
"Hugs Wanted" scored an 80 at Mid East and passed at Nationals.

Karen_Smith
02-28-2007, 09:25 PM
"Soft as a Petal" scored a 78 at Mid East 06, but I reprinted it sent it to Nationals and it passed.

D._Craig_Flory
02-28-2007, 09:34 PM
Hi Karen;

Do you mean passed = merited ? I love your images !!!

Karen_Smith
02-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Yes they merited. Sorry. :)

Don_Chick
02-28-2007, 11:59 PM
The others were:

Boys Have Balls 78

Robin,

I don't think this title helped your score any. Judges are supposed to look beyond the title when scoring but a good title can really help... (imho)

Don_Chick
03-01-2007, 12:02 AM
Karen,

Beautiful images. Are any of the children in the images related to you?

Karen_Smith
03-01-2007, 03:23 PM
No, they were all my clients. Reason for asking??

Don_Chick
03-01-2007, 08:14 PM
Karen,

The face of the child in the image "Soft as a petal" looks a little like you! Similar shape to her face... just curious.

JohnHeckler
03-08-2007, 04:45 AM
Ok, now that MES 2007 is over, here is how I ended up:

The first one of my prints I got to see turn was Love Takes Center Stage (again, thanks to all for the help and input on this one, and the title Mark!): Love Takes Center Stage - scored 88

http://www.jthphotography.com/host-images/LTCS-4x5-100dpi.jpg

This one turned about 2 hours into the first day of judging and it really seemed like the judges were being hard on images. From what I remember, only a handful of images had merited at this point. As soon as this turned, all 5 judges and the alternate scooted back their chairs to walk up to this and get a closer look. I was freakin' out and thought it was history when they all sat back down to score it. I *think* it initially scored like an 86 or something and I was relieved. Then one of the judges challenged it right away. He had it scored at 91. They all discussed it and many comments came out for and against the image, kinda like here are the forums. Some didn't like how much the trees were burned down, some didn't like the hot spot on the right of the arch, etc, etc. The challenging judge gave his rebuttle and it ended up scoring an 88. Nerve racking for sure, but fun to see the process work. This one went on to receive a Fujifilm Masterpiece Award in the wedding category at the awards ceremony unbenounced to me until folks started to tell me about it the next day.


My next print to turn wasn't until the following day (Friday) and was Sweet Appeal - scored 76

http://www.jthphotography.com/host-images/SweetAppeal-4x5-100dpi.jpg

There were two judging rooms and I was actually in the other room when I heard this title being announced. I darted over to the room where this turned, didn't hear a single comment except the score of 76 and then it turned away. So at this point, I was one for one, but I didn't care one bit as I was still flying from the first print :-)

To be continued ...

JohnHeckler
03-08-2007, 04:53 AM
The next print of mine to turn was Family Resemblance - score 81

http://www.jthphotography.com/host-images/FamilyResemblance4x5-100dpi.jpg

I was in the other room again when this one turned so I missed the very beginning. A buddy of mine who was in the room watching for me said the judges snickered a little, but that nothing was said. The score was announced and it turned away. This one did however receive a "Court of Honor" award during the awards ceremony (which I didn't attend :-( )

The last print of mine to turn was Precious Perspective - score 81

http://www.jthphotography.com/host-images/PreciousPerspective4x5-100dpi.jpg

This one initially scored a 79. It was challenged and the judges then explained their initial scores. The challenging judge had it at 81, the next judge had it at 81, the next at 82 and he stated he scored it there because he didn't feel like he had to see it again in the "in's and out's", then the next guy had it at 77 as did the last judge. There comments said it had a cyan cast to it and was too grey. The challenging judge gave her rebuttle saying she didn't see the color cast and thought is was well printed and was very emotive. They all re-scored and it ended at 81.

I was doing backflips at this point :-)

Marc_Benjamin
03-08-2007, 05:02 AM
Wow John, great results..... 88 w/ a F Masterpiece! So you got PEC 3 seals already ey! Great!

Andrea_Chapelo
03-08-2007, 12:25 PM
Congrats John. You are probably still flying high. Well deserved. :D Can you hear me clapping?

JohnHeckler
03-08-2007, 03:51 PM
Congrats John. You are probably still flying high. Well deserved. :D Can you hear me clapping?

Thankyou Andrea!

BTW, I posted this to this thread because I personally found it extremely helpful to me when I was preparing my prints for competition to read about and see others' images that either did or did not make it and any comments as to why or why not. Hopefully it comes across that way and not me being hubris ... although, that being said, I can't help myself but to be excited about it in all honesty.

D._Craig_Flory
03-08-2007, 04:00 PM
Hi John;

Way to go, atta boy, you done' good !!!

Keith_A_Howe
03-09-2007, 02:25 PM
John Good Job! Congrats on the award. Be sure to publish your good news. Send it to your local people in business section in your local newspaper.
Keith

Keith_A_Howe
03-09-2007, 02:26 PM
John I wish you could have been at the awards
Keith

JohnHeckler
03-09-2007, 05:34 PM
John Good Job! Congrats on the award. Be sure to publish your good news. Send it to your local people in business section in your local newspaper.
Keith

Thanks Keith ... you and Holly have been a HUGE help to me as well as so many others here. Thanks again for all of your help and giving so much of your time to help folks here. It has been REALLY appreciated. PPA should give service merits for that :-) Not like you guys need anymore ... :D :p