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02-04-2012, 06:46 PM
Ok. Lemme have it. I'm ordering these babies tomorrow, and I want a second look over.

I need a title for the male. Suggestions are welcome.

02-04-2012, 06:56 PM
Jill, nice images. Make sure you have good detail in the shadow areas in all your images. It's hard to tell from here because it looks like your shadow areas are blocked. Look at these images under hard lights to make sure that those details show.

02-04-2012, 06:59 PM
Thanks Michael!

I was worried about blocking on The Mill, but everything seems to be okay on it on my monitor. Its tough when they resize and compress for web. Things go funky.

Maybe I should run a set of test prints.....

02-04-2012, 07:27 PM
The second one looks soft around the edges on my monitor - especially in the lower right corner - is it?
If it is, I'd sharpen it up a bit - with a hard subject like that, soft edges might not help it.

02-04-2012, 07:37 PM

There is some fall off in the corners of sharpness, the edges of the metal themselves are all a bit soft due to the hoare frost on them.

I'll see what I can do about recovering some of the far edges. They are pretty soft due to DOF though.

02-08-2012, 06:23 PM
I really need title help with nude dude above. Any suggestions welcome!

02-08-2012, 07:24 PM
I have a hard time titling my own images but...

"Strength Illuminated"?

02-08-2012, 07:25 PM
the boat is a for sure for me( seeing it as a small file)

The dude lacks some design interest. Maybe his leg needed to be pushed out more or something. It is very straight up and down, and lacks the impact it could have. The razor blased are a great concept, and love the tonality. It will probably not score where you want it to because of the sharpness of the blades. Razors should be sharp, never fuzzy..In fact we use the razor as a pseudonym for sharp. The mill might work better flipped, but the thing for me is the water either needs to have that creamy look, or be totally stopped. In this case you are in between, and it is a main focal point of the image. Do you have anything else you are working on? I know you want 4 for sures....I only see 1 that could be a for sure imho.

02-08-2012, 08:38 PM
Thanks Kristin


I was afraid to pop his leg up too much for fear of making him feminine....I am shooting him again, so I'll retry this one.

Those aren't razors, they are concrete clips covered in hoare frost. The edges are fuzzy from the frost.

I'm afraid to flip the mill because of how recognizeable the location is, and many people know it.

I have one more I'm working on but in no way shape or form will it be ready for Western States. It's still in post and requires several more hours of post on it to be ready.

These 4 images as they sit are what I've ordered from my case, so I'm married to them for now. At this point, I mainly need a title for nude dude, and I'll reevaluate after district scoring for replacemnts.

02-09-2012, 05:54 AM
LOVE the boats!!!

The mill may be too much of a common subject. I wonder if any judges would like to see some more movement in the water... with a neutral density filter or something. Cliche, I know, but they might wanna see it that way.

02-09-2012, 06:19 AM
Male Torso - looks like you've got some shadows that have gone totally black - I know that was probably your intention, but that may hold it back.
Cold Hard Steel, I still don't like the fuzzy edges - soft edges on hard steel just doesn't seem to work for me.
Docked - I like it, and think it will do well
The Mill - I agree with Fuzzy's comment - the "frozen in place" water in the mill photo will not help the score. It might do better if a longer exposure had been used so that the water could have smoothed out a bit...

02-09-2012, 05:52 PM
Nude Dude - In print the shadows aren't totally black, web compression is causing it on upload I think.

Cold Hard Steel - Rolling the dice on this one...we'll see what happens. Comments are heard and understood.

Docked - I have high hopes for this one.

The Mill - I know its a horribly common subject, and its generally always seen with the cotton candy water, I wanted to do something a little different than the norm. I shot it at the complete wrong time of day to get the cotton candy water. Next time I go to WV I'll try it again.

All of these have already been ordered from the lab. I'm at the point of no return for Western States, so what I've got here is what I'm sending.

Any title suggestions for Nude Dude, he's the only one without one.

02-09-2012, 06:05 PM
let us know how you do ok? The nude dude seems like a distant lover. So I keep thinking distant, the distance between us, something like that.

02-09-2012, 06:38 PM

I certainly will.

Thank you for the title suggestion.


02-10-2012, 05:48 AM
Ok Options on the table for Nude Dude are:

Mortal or Man

02-10-2012, 04:08 PM
Mortal or Man does not seem to work, as they mean pretty much the same thing.

02-10-2012, 06:04 PM
I put it in wrong, teach me to post when I'm tired...

Mortal or God

02-10-2012, 06:37 PM
Heh... personally I like the title "Nude Dude". If only he had a cowboy hat on.

Anyway, I know it probably won't work for comp. :) My actual vote is for "L'Homme".

02-10-2012, 08:13 PM
I'm leaning towards it, my fear is pronunciation, and the judges "getting" it.

02-10-2012, 08:28 PM
What about "Chiseled", since he's standing like a statue?

02-10-2012, 09:01 PM
ohh...that's an option.

02-10-2012, 09:02 PM
I'm leaning towards it, my fear is pronunciation, and the judges "getting" it.

Yeah, ya gotta be concerned about how they will pronounce the title.
L'Homme could come out as "L - Homey" ... I can see the judges sitting there going ... "what?"

02-10-2012, 09:40 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. So no L'Homme.