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D._Craig_Flory
06-24-2006, 01:09 PM
Hi group;

I know it's a busy time of year and print competition is furthest from your minds. But, when you are creating portraits, covering weddings, or any other images ... keep competition in your minds. If you have good subjects, or a great location, create a few images just for you. If a child's, or senior's, parents only want close-ups at that great location ... do some from a distance and tell them it's no extra charge. Allude to just doing some images to satisfy your creative side. You can say the subject(s) are very wonderful subjects and / or the location is awesome. Try some other angles or that idea that has been nagging you.

Create a hard drive folder and label it something like potential comp. images. As time allows, start to narrow down to the very best. Work them in Photoshop and have an 8x10 made of each. When ready you can determine which to have made in 16X20's. (8X10 is proportional with 16X20 so it's a good way to get a feeling on how the full size will look)

I am making a promise, to myself, to no longer be a procrastinator. I always seem to quickly get prints done at the last moment. So by October, I vow to have a bunch of 8x10's to review and to start having the 16X20's printed by the end of the year.

I hope I've inspired others to also get going NOW on competition images. Just a few extra minutes per portrait, or wedding, and saving in a file folder ... could result in some merits next year.

D. Craig Flory PPA Certified, Cr.Photog., ASP

floryphotog@mindspring.com

Holly_Howe
06-24-2006, 03:12 PM
Craig's idea is excellant! However he is much more organized then we are. For those of you, like Keith & I, who aren't as on top of things, here's another suggestion. I have a piece of paper taped inside a cupboard door in the production room. I just write down the client name and pose #. In Nebraska we also have a folio competition and a Photogenic competition so I'm always jotting down ideas for that too. So if you are organized like Craig - do what he said. If you are lazy like me, at least jot down the numbers. Either way it helps a lot when it's time to get competition prints done. Plus what Craig didn't mention - you save a lot of money cause you aren't paying rush charges to the lab and next day air shipping to get them to the competition on time.
Holly

Brian_Roden
06-30-2006, 09:25 PM
I started working on competition prints for our upcoming state comp (in late July) 2-3 weeks ago. I spent the past couple of weeks making up 12 candidates, and now I'm getting feedback from various forums on which ones people think are the strongest, and minor changes that would make them better. Then the 6 that had the best feedback will be printed and go in the case (our state compe allows 6, with no more than 4 in one category -- Portrait, EI, or Illustrative).

Linda_Gregory
07-24-2006, 04:47 PM
Ooookay guys and gals.

I have one I've been working on this past weekend when I should have been doing so much else.

Please give critiques, especially on where to mount it. I have a rainbow of colors around it because I couldn't decide....they're all in layers for me to decide later and any input there would be greatly appriciated. I've placed it just about everywhere on a 20 x 16, should I look into 16 x 20? Good gried, I can't make a decision!

Thanks for your help!

Marc_Benjamin
07-24-2006, 05:50 PM
Hi Linda,

Great placement of the couple and I always love the walking to or away from the camera moments.

Title: On the Path to the Sanctuary? BTW, focus imediately goes to the church! Try the upside down method of looking at a print.
So either title it for the church of burn down the church. Wait that does'nt sound right, the burning part that is.

Strokes/lines: Having multiple strokes is really risky since there's a big chance of causing a distraction. I would just go without it except for the one used for the edge of the image. Darker ones are the safe bets for srokes and mounts. If you feel that would like to have the storke, step mount style then I would still for the darker one.

Placement: 16x20 looks better. slim jiming (that's not a real word) the image vertically might look better, removing some of the negative space on camera right.

At any rate, nice scenic bride and groom image though very risky to enter. Good luck and let us know how this one turns out..

D._Craig_Flory
07-24-2006, 06:11 PM
Hi Linda;

I will have to disagree with Marc. The couple is way too low in your presentation. I am attaching my rendition but was not able to have them high enough to be in the 1st quadrant. Do you have more area on the Raw file ? I'd like to see the original image.

I do agree with Marc on the accent lines. I realize you were trying to get an idea of what color and density you liked. I hope my version helps you in determining your final presentation.

D. Craig Flory PPA Certified, Cr.Photog., ASP
floryphotog@mindspring.com

Linda_Gregory
07-24-2006, 06:31 PM
Thank you for the replys and suggestions.

I did not intend to send it with several colored strokes, just had them all there as I tried to make up my mind.

Here is the original sized image, where would I place the couple or just give this one up?

I've had favorable comments about this image but one comment has been made several times....'where's your subject? Someone should be walking down that winding road.'

So I put them there.

The church is in southern Germany, the wedding couple are from Romania.

David_Capano
07-24-2006, 06:51 PM
Weird... here I thought the subject was the church.


huh! ...oh well, call me crazy, call me insane... just don't call me late for dinner! ;)

D._Craig_Flory
07-24-2006, 07:56 PM
Hi Linda;

I'm sending my 2nd variation. Since you posted without the br. & gr., I now placed them on the 1st quadrant. I also left my composition grid on top with the opacity lowered so it does not keep anyone from seeing the couple. I hope this helps.

D. Craig Flory PPA Certified, Cr.Photog., ASP
floryphotog@mindspring.com

Linda_Gregory
07-29-2006, 01:53 PM
Thanks, Craig.

I still like this but wonder if it isn't just an image with great possibilities but not much future. I have another at work I hope to post for comments later today.

Anyone else have future 'loaner's to share?

Holly_Howe
07-29-2006, 02:35 PM
I agree with Craig on moving the placement of the couple. It's hard to tell on the moniter but make sure they are in scale for the scene you place them in. That is the first tip off to a judge that something has been added. I think the image could be improved by taking down the whole background so the bridal couple stands out more. Right now it's hard to get to them cause you get caught up in everything else that's going on. In the old days we would just cover the print with a layer of neutral tint oil and the erase out the couple, then spray with several coats of laquer - couple hours of work. I sure do miss those times . . . NOT! Also on my moniter the sky looks very artificial, but I suspect that's just cause of a low res file on a laptop moniter. Just a thought here - what would happen if you made this a very warm amber monotone? Might not like it once I saw it, but maybe it would work for a title of "Old World Romance" or something like that. Probably won't work but might be interesting to play around with. I wouldn't eliminate this one from your potential choices just yet.

Holly

Linda_Gregory
07-29-2006, 02:51 PM
You guys are great! I'll work on those ideas sooner than I should....have tons of stuff that needs to be done (let's NOT talk laundry) but I'm ready for some fun! And it's way too hot out to do yardwork.

D._Craig_Flory
07-29-2006, 03:40 PM
Hi Holly;

I love "Old World Romance" as a possible title. I was thinking "Old Fashioned Romance" but like yours better.

D. Craig Flory PPA Certified, Cr.Photog., ASP
floryphotog@mindspring.com

Linda_Gregory
07-29-2006, 04:11 PM
Here is my next attempt and boy, do I get lost on this one. The original is slightly wider but the window IS crooked. I've removed wires from around the window but love the peeling paint.

It was taken three years ago in Romania, the cat gave me one opportunity and then was gone.

I was only shooting jpg because our laptop had been stolen as well as our image tank so our two week trip was centered around finding someplace to write cds. We found multitudes of friendly people willing to help us and met many more people because of our predicament. What can I say? I love that country.


http://www.exais.com/ciw01.jpg

http://www.exais.com/ciw02.jpg

Linda_Gregory
07-29-2006, 04:22 PM
Ooookay, I obviously don't know how to attach a link so it shows up as an image so I'll just give you the links.

http://www.exais.com/ciw01.jpg

http://www.exais.com/ciw02.jpg

Mark_Turner
07-29-2006, 05:10 PM
Off subject, where did you go in Romania? It looks like at least the foothills of the Carpathians. I have been to Timisoara twice, and about 15 villages around Timish County. I went with a medical/childrens mission in April 2002, and a Christmas humanitarian mission in December 2003. Wow, it get's cold there. We amazed the children in one of the villages with balloon animals. They apparently had never seen a balloon. They are a precious people, and I am going back the first chance I get.

D._Craig_Flory
07-29-2006, 05:16 PM
Hi Linda;

I'll check back later after I get back from covering a wedding. Your 2nd attempt failed too ... I get a message that I'm forbidden access on both files.

D. Craig Flory PPA Certified, Cr.Photog., ASP
floryphotog@mindspring.com

Linda_Gregory
07-29-2006, 05:23 PM
Romania, it could be a list of it's own! Oh, I think it IS :) I went there in the fall of 03, starting in Ploiesti, going to Deva and returning to Ploiesti. The second trip was for a wedding of a lady met on our first trip in Ploiesti but we did manage to get back to the Deva area and with a rental car this time, saw the country side in Hunedoara County and went through Sigisoara and Sibiu on our way back to Ploiesti.

Lovely country, try THESE links www.exais.com/O&O and http://www.exais.com/Rom-05-L/

I also get the errors but the url address is still in the browser window so I hit the 'go' button and it loads. What AM I doing wrong?

Linda_Gregory
07-30-2006, 04:57 PM
I give up on the links, here are the images. First one:

Linda_Gregory
07-30-2006, 04:59 PM
Same but different

Holly_Howe
07-30-2006, 07:24 PM
Linda, What are your thoughts on making the image so small in the presentation? Is there a purpose for deliberatly making it small? If not I would suggest it should be larger. Not full flush - but not so much borders.

Holly

Linda_Gregory
07-31-2006, 03:04 AM
Holly, thank you for input.

I made it that size to get the cat at the thirds junction. I've placed it everywhere and can't make myself happy with it. Suggestions more than welcome!

Holly_Howe
07-31-2006, 03:15 AM
No more room around the image?
Holly

Don_Chick
07-31-2006, 11:15 PM
You might consider flipping the image and putting the cat in the lower right corner. Also, I got rid of the building beyond the moulding. Perhaps make the pinstripe mimic the shape of what's left of the building. If you can fix the perspective issue, that may be an improvement.... Just a couple ideas.
It's hard to make it look decent with such a small file. Good luck.