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Mark_Turner
02-01-2012, 08:32 PM
Any critique, suggestions, or feedback is appreciated. I'd love to get 4 merits this year.
1-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/competition_white.jpg
2-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/competition_violin.jpg
3-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/competition_schoolhouse.jpg
4-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/competition_pinup.jpg

Mark_Turner
02-01-2012, 08:35 PM
5-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/competition_paintball.jpg
6-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/competition_boudoir.jpg
7-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/competition_cake.jpg
8-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/competition_boots.jpg

J_Davidson
02-02-2012, 12:10 AM
Yikes, they posted really large! Can you resize?

Avery_Munger
02-02-2012, 12:49 AM
Holy large images, Batman! I think (not a judge & not the greatest critiquer) that you have solid images in #1 & #8. Image #7 seems to have something funky going on with the upper right side of his head/hair... it's semi-transparent it seems. Image #6 you can see "dirt" specs on the floor around her (two on left near elbow & one down front right). In image #4 the specular on the plane completely draws my attention away from her and #2 has a huge matte. My opinion/preference would be to give the image (in #2) much more real estate on the matte.

As I said, just what I immediately noticed, but Rick, Jeff and them could probably offer much better feedback.

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 01:39 AM
Not sure why they are so large...try CTRL+- to reduce the size of any browser. I'll resize when I get a chance.

Rick_Massarini
02-02-2012, 02:02 AM
Yeah, I can only see a small portion of the image at one time.. Hard to critique when you can't see the whole image at one time.

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 02:10 AM
There, resized.

Rick_Massarini
02-02-2012, 06:16 AM
1 - I'd get rid of that stray chunk of hair that slices through the dark area on the right hand side. make sure that you haven't lost detail on the right side of her face and there is something odd and swirly looking on her left cheek that needs cleaniing up

2 -The image appears to be too small on the mat. I'd place the X of the bow and the violin on the upper right rule of thirds line and leave space on the lower left.

3 -Too much black space on the left side and it doesn't look like there is any detail in the shadows of the face (on my monitor).

4 - Hot spots on the plane keep pulling my eye away.

5 - Too much dark space on the left hand side - move the image to the right and leave a bit of space to the left and below. Can't tell if there is detail in the shadows, but if there is detail there, I believe this will do OK

6 - Skin tones in the shadows of this high key seem to be a bit on the red side. The symmetrical composition would be better if both of her knees were on the same level. It looks like there is a lot of space around the image with the image set down in the lower left - it might do better if it were centered since it is a asymmetrically composed image.

7 - I see the transparent spot that Avery mentioned, that needs to be addressed. The image seems to have too much white space above it and to the left. Need the mat reduced a bit.

8 - The shoes are a definite go with the right title - again, make sure there is detail in the shadows. Fix the dodge line around the boy's leg or this will kill the image - blend it in a bit and spread it out somewhat. Again, there is too much space around them. I'd move the image up to the upper right hand corner and leave a bit of space to the left and below.

If you make an image small on a mat, there should usually be some reason for making it small.

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 11:50 AM
Images do have to be 8x10 to 16x20, but mounted on 16x20, is that right? So a 8x10 step mounted to a 16x20 board? Is that still correct?

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 12:01 PM
Images do have to be 8x10 to 16x20, but mounted on 16x20, is that right? So a 8x10 step mounted to a 16x20 board? Is that still correct?

Jeff_Dachowski
02-02-2012, 12:43 PM
Mark,
No, They can be on whatever size you like now. Entrants may submit printed images of any shape and size on a mount board a minimum of 80 square inches to a maximum of 480
square inches, with the largest dimension no longer than 24 in.

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 01:09 PM
OK, that's just going to complicate my thinking.

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 03:22 PM
Round 2...
1-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_white.jpg
2-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_violin.jpg
3-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_schoolhouse.jpg
4-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_pinup.jpg

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 03:24 PM
5-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_paintball.jpg
6-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_boudoir.jpg
7-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_cake.jpg
8-
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_boots.jpg

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 03:45 PM
1 - I'd get rid of that stray chunk of hair that slices through the dark area on the right hand side. make sure that you haven't lost detail on the right side of her face and there is something odd and swirly looking on her left cheek that needs cleaniing up

I flipped her to the right, checked for detail in her cheek, dodged it down a bit overall, fixed her hair, and smoothed that skin issue.

2 -The image appears to be too small on the mat. I'd place the X of the bow and the violin on the upper right rule of thirds line and leave space on the lower left.

3 -Too much black space on the left side and it doesn't look like there is any detail in the shadows of the face (on my monitor).

There is detail in the shadows. You have to look for it, but it's there.

4 - Hot spots on the plane keep pulling my eye away.

I knocked down the hot spots a bit, and slimmed her a bit too. I also change the background to get an opinion on that type of mount before I do it to any others.

5 - Too much dark space on the left hand side - move the image to the right and leave a bit of space to the left and below. Can't tell if there is detail in the shadows, but if there is detail there, I believe this will do OK

There is also detail in the shadow here, but again, you have to look for it. It is as dark as I can go without losing detail, I think.

6 - Skin tones in the shadows of this high key seem to be a bit on the red side. The symmetrical composition would be better if both of her knees were on the same level. It looks like there is a lot of space around the image with the image set down in the lower left - it might do better if it were centered since it is a asymmetrically composed image.

I adjusted the mount, and will try to knock down the freckle line if this one makes the cut. She does have a lot of freckles.

7 - I see the transparent spot that Avery mentioned, that needs to be addressed. The image seems to have too much white space above it and to the left. Need the mat reduced a bit.

I darkened this one a little, especially around that spot that appeared transparent. He's not see through, I promise.

8 - The shoes are a definite go with the right title - again, make sure there is detail in the shadows. Fix the dodge line around the boy's leg or this will kill the image - blend it in a bit and spread it out somewhat. Again, there is too much space around them. I'd move the image up to the upper right hand corner and leave a bit of space to the left and below.

I'll work on that area. I missed it this time around.

If you make an image small on a mat, there should usually be some reason for making it small.

Thank you!

Avery_Munger
02-02-2012, 04:18 PM
Not that you asked, but I just had a title idea for #8 - "Daddy's Home" (or "Mommy's Home" - although... looks more like a man's foot to me).

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 04:27 PM
Title ideas are welcome! I was thinking "Come back, Daddy!"

Cheri_MacCallum
02-02-2012, 05:20 PM
Mark, on the BW profile. Take out the hot button right at the bottom of the image. My eye keeps going right there.

Jeff_Dachowski
02-02-2012, 05:22 PM
Mark 1, 2, and 5 are your strongest. A fourth print would be the profile.

Feel free to call me if you have a moment.
Jeff

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 05:40 PM
Got it, Cheri. I'll call in a few minutes Jeff. Time for a coffee break, anyway.

Mark_Turner
02-02-2012, 07:14 PM
OK, here's number one..."Shooter"
http://www.turnercart.com/Competition/round2/competition_paintball.jpg

Rick_Massarini
02-02-2012, 09:54 PM
I think you should go with the shoes - it has impact, and it tells a story - those are the two most important of the 12 Elements. Just clean up that dodge line...

Jeff_Dachowski
02-03-2012, 12:36 AM
Mark, with shooter.....try otating the image about 5 degrees to the left. Lean him into the left side just a touch. See if that raises the tension at all.

Mark_Turner
02-03-2012, 12:50 AM
Huh, it started out the way, but I straightened it when I narrowed the image. I'll rotate it again and see hoe that looks. Thanks for your help Jeff.