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Jessica_Edwards
03-22-2011, 04:58 AM
I'm not holding my breath that I'm going to get a lot of response on this because I'm sure that a lot of you guys are doing the same thing I'm doing... scrambling to get your images ready for competition!

But here goes anyway...

I had a shoot today and I'm hoping to use one of these images for HOA competition. Yeah...a little last minute, but that's pretty typical of me.

In the beginning, we started fairly normal (see first image) then I had her go a little crazy with the eye makeup and we did some creepy ballerina pictures. I'm thinking I want to do these in black and white, but I'm having trouble keeping detail in the highlights and shadows and not having the contrast be too flat.

Here's the first one (cropped SOOC). I wish I could have shot it horizontally but my background wasn't wide enough. I tried PSing it, but I couldn't make the floor look natural.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/jrayeedwards/2bw2-1.jpg

I would LIKE for the crop to look like this, but my PS job of stretching out the background leaves a lot to be desired. Also, this is one that I posted online for the client, so I bumped the contrast and changed the cropping.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/jrayeedwards/2bw2-taylor.jpg

A couple of versions of the "creepy ballerina" one...

bw

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/jrayeedwards/ballerina-bw-2.jpg

warm bw

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/jrayeedwards/ballerina-sepia.jpg

What do you guys think? Which is stronger? What kind of changes need to be made to make them more competition-worthy?

Thanks in advance.

Jessica_Edwards
03-22-2011, 04:59 AM
I'm not sure what I'm doing to make them look soft on this forum, but they are sharp... I promise! :)

GregYager
03-22-2011, 01:18 PM
I like the 3rd one. I'm not so sure about the eye makeup but I know that was part of the look.

Tss1203
03-22-2011, 02:26 PM
well, I'll throw my disclaimer that I am no expert, so take my opinion with a grain of salt ;0)

I like the uneasiness of the second pose, but I feel it makes her look heavy. Whether that would affect it in comp, I have no idea.

Cassandra_Sullivan
03-22-2011, 04:17 PM
The first pose - I can't see her right leg or foot at all - so it looks to me like she only has one leg.
The 2nd pose - reminds me of a spider, and has more impact to me. Maybe if your title could reflect the creepiness the it would work?

Jessica_Edwards
03-22-2011, 05:24 PM
Yes, I think the one legged thing will hurt it.

I had planned on naming it something like "Black Widow" or "Along Came a Spider" or "Spider Woman". I'm leaning toward "Black Widow".

Keith_A_Howe
03-22-2011, 05:47 PM
I judged a print two years ago at SWPPA - exact same pose of a ballerina except she had one arm in the air. It was titled Dance of the Spider Woman.

Keith

GregYager
03-22-2011, 05:53 PM
I judged a print two years ago at SWPPA - exact same pose of a ballerina except she had one arm in the air. It was titled Dance of the Spider Woman.

Keith

Now that's what I call a good memory! I'm struggling to remember what I had for breakfast and you're remembering poses AND titles from two years ago!

Tss1203
03-22-2011, 05:58 PM
Now that's what I call a good memory! I'm struggling to remember what I had for breakfast and you're remembering poses AND titles from two years ago!

no, that's what you call IMPACT.

Not to say that Keith doesn't have a good memory though ;)

Keith_A_Howe
03-22-2011, 05:59 PM
The print got challenged a couple times so that's why I remember it. I don't remember the majority of prints - just the ones that stand out for some reason.

Keith

Jessica_Edwards
03-22-2011, 06:11 PM
I judged a print two years ago at SWPPA - exact same pose of a ballerina except she had one arm in the air. It was titled Dance of the Spider Woman.

Keith

Yes, that is impressive...your memory and the impact that image must have had!

I've heard comments that she looks thick. She actually is pretty thick...especially for a dancer. The problem is, *I* know this...but the judges won't. :(

Jessica_Edwards
03-22-2011, 11:57 PM
What do you guys think about presentation? One of these 3 or something different?

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/jrayeedwards/Spider1.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/jrayeedwards/Spider2.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/jrayeedwards/spider3.jpg

GregYager
03-23-2011, 05:26 PM
My vote is for #2. I think cropping it square within the key line matches the pose best.

Jessica_Edwards
03-24-2011, 02:38 AM
Thanks for your feedback. That's a good point. :)

Jessica_Edwards
03-24-2011, 05:17 AM
If anyone cares, this is the version that I went with. Wish me luck!

"Dance of the Black Widow"

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/jrayeedwards/Dance-of-the-Black-Widow.jpg

Sarah_Johnston
03-24-2011, 12:13 PM
Good Title. I like the all of the leading lines of the web too. Let us know how it did!

GregYager
03-24-2011, 12:59 PM
My guess is that it will merit. Did you send digital or print?

Jessica_Edwards
03-24-2011, 09:27 PM
My guess is that it will merit. Did you send digital or print?

I sure hope so! :)

I sent a print.

cclark88
03-24-2011, 10:39 PM
Thanks for sharing, those are nice. Too late I know but I prefer the first image. 2nd and 3rd I think I would have prefered if her hands were not on the floor and maybe turn her head a little to the side. And I think the eye makeup just wasn't flattering for her. I like the lighting and that's a cool floor and backdrop.

Jessica_Edwards
03-27-2011, 04:35 AM
Thanks for sharing, those are nice. Too late I know but I prefer the first image. 2nd and 3rd I think I would have prefered if her hands were not on the floor and maybe turn her head a little to the side. And I think the eye makeup just wasn't flattering for her. I like the lighting and that's a cool floor and backdrop.

Thank you, Chris, for your comments. However, those changes that you suggested would have gone completely against my artistic vision and what I wanted to do with the image. I wanted her to look very spider-like (hence the name "Dance of the Black Widow") and without her hands on the floor, looking like spider legs, I'm not sure I would have accomplished that look. Her make-up isn't necessarily supposed to be "flattering". I was going for a very dramatic, creepy look.

I do think the image you described would have been a nice image, it's just not the look/mood that I was going for. :)