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MarcHathaway
12-10-2009, 05:05 PM
I've had a hard time finding information about the degrees on the website. How are the degrees awarded? Do you apply after meeting some requirements or is it automatic after you complete the requirements?

I'm interested in the Master of Photography degree but I don't know what it entails entirely. Where can I find more detailed information about the degrees, their requirements, how merits are awarded and for what?

Michael_Gan
12-10-2009, 05:54 PM
Marc, when you have received all the proper merits for your degree, PPA will notify you that you qualify and will send you the proper papers to fill out to receive your degree. You need, for the Masters, 13 Exhibition merits and 12 additional merits, such as attending Imaging USA, attending Super Mondays, speaking, attending affiliate schools, and volunteering for PPA events, just to name a very few. Once you reach the 25 merits, Cristel's office will contact you.

Then, once you accept/confirm your degree, your name will show up for voting at the council meeting during IUSA and you're in!

For more information, go to the top of this web page, click on Benefits and select Merits and Degrees.

Keith_A_Howe
12-10-2009, 06:08 PM
Marc,

Once you have met the requirments and are eligible for the degree, you will recieve a letter from PPA. It's been awhile since I got my last degree so I don't remember exactly but I do believe there is a sort of application - but it's more just a registration that you are attending the ceremony or not - how your name should be written on the certificate, who your sponsor is etc. The PPA council does vote on the list of degree recipients each year. The actual degree is presented at an awards ceremony at IUSA. Your sponsor accompanies you on stage and actually hangs the ribbon around your neck. The sponsor is traditionally someone you feel has been instrumental in your reaching your degree. It does NOT have to be a PPA member but it is required to be an adult - no children.

To be eligible, you must have 13 print merits and 12 other merits. It used to be a challenge to earn those 12 other merits but now they practically give them away for attending certain seminars etc. I think you also have to have been a member for 2 or 3 years. You can earn those extra 12 merits by service, speaking, education or additional print merits. Print merits are received from having prints accepted for the exhibition at IUSA. Judging for that takes place in June or July every year. Each accepted print earns one merit. A print selected for Loan collection gets 2 merits.

Hope this helps. If you have more questions just ask.

Keith

MarcHathaway
12-10-2009, 06:21 PM
For more information, go to the top of this web page, click on Benefits and select Merits and Degrees.

I've looked at that and it really isn't helpful. There is more information on the credential programs page.

Where or at what level of print competition are the merits awarded that are needed for the degree?

Todd_Reichman
12-10-2009, 06:40 PM
What is the significance of purpose of the voting stage? Just curious as to why that apparent formality is included.

Also, what is the history or significance of the sponsor thing?

- trr

Heather_L._Smith
12-10-2009, 09:57 PM
Where or at what level of print competition are the merits awarded that are needed for the degree?

The print (or exhibition) merits you earn are awarded at the national level of competition only - not at state or local competitions. National competition happens once a year.

Betsy_Finn
12-10-2009, 10:09 PM
Todd, the voting, as I understand it, is where any objections can be raised (and the degree applicant has the chance for rebuttal if there is an objection).

Marc, if you are going to Imaging, you should sign up for an Image Critique -- this would be a great way to get you started in the process of figuring out what images to enter. Also, you should check out the Exhibition while you are there... it has on display most of the merit images (except any that couldn't be safely hung).

Todd_Reichman
12-10-2009, 11:12 PM
Todd, the voting, as I understand it, is where any objections can be raised (and the degree applicant has the chance for rebuttal if there is an objection).


I get that, but the requirements for degrees are pretty well-defined - what would cause objections?

- trr

MarcHathaway
12-10-2009, 11:26 PM
Marc, if you are going to Imaging, you should sign up for an Image Critique -- this would be a great way to get you started in the process of figuring out what images to enter. Also, you should check out the Exhibition while you are there... it has on display most of the merit images (except any that couldn't be safely hung).

Unfortunately I won't be able to attend this year. Anyone know where it will be held in 2011?

Jeff_Dachowski
12-11-2009, 12:33 AM
I get that, but the requirements for degrees are pretty well-defined - what would cause objections?

- trr
Todd,
one big no- no is saying you have achieved the degree prior to receiving it. Another might be an ethics situation.
Jeff

Marc_Benjamin
12-11-2009, 12:34 AM
I get that, but the requirements for degrees are pretty well-defined - what would cause objections?

- trr

I've heard in the past that objections would come up due to some ethics such and so...

Oh and when a recipient starts claiming (attaching the initials/advertising that they are) that they've earned the degree already during that year that you earned the merits but not marched yet.

Also, if new evidence of say cheating were to come into light. Example, turns out you did same subject in the same year but no one caught it. Or the instructor of the class you were in would object since you entered a print created during a class.

Complainers then calls their councilor, now that councilor has to bring it up. It would be really mean though if this happens during imaging week and the recipient and their families have already there room/flight/vacation already vested.

Those are the situations I could think of. I've attended 4 of the last council meetings and I've never seen a complaint. I've seen a last minute addition though last year. Something about a miscount on the merits and it turns out whoever it was had enough so they added her name to the list and let her March.

Betsy_Finn
12-11-2009, 05:30 AM
Doesn't it have to be addressed within 10 days of the councilor review packet being sent out though? I just received my email that the packets were being mailed out. (if someone knows the answer to this question, then great... in the meantime, I'll send off an email to get some clarification).

Joe_Campanellie
12-11-2009, 02:51 PM
All degree candidates must be approved by council.

Once the names have been sent out there is a time limit as to when objection have to be made to a recipient. Usually it's on the basis of an ethics issues. There might be other situations.

Mike_Bentley
01-20-2010, 10:47 PM
The breakdown for merits required isn't on anything under the merits and degree tab anymore. Or if it is I sure can't find it anymore, I used to know just how and where to find it.
For the Masters the 12 service merits can be speaking or attending merits? I think so, am I right?
Oh, and someone ask about print merits. Score 80 or above at a PPA competition to get a merit.

Michael_Gan
01-20-2010, 11:33 PM
Pretty much correct Mike. The 12 merits can be including, or any other merits (Most will reserve their degree merits though - for example, not use exhibition merits towards the Craftsman, etc.).

Oh, BTW, and this goes for all certifieds. There is no "PPA Certified" anymore. We are trying to get the word out to all CPPs that it is now "CPP". You are all certified under the CPPC (Certified Professional Photography Commission).

Kimberly_Hill
01-24-2010, 02:00 AM
h, BTW, and this goes for all certifieds. There is no "PPA Certified" anymore. We are trying to get the word out to all CPPs that it is now "CPP". You are all certified under the CPPC (Certified Professional Photography Commission).

So disappointed about this. Does this now mean we no longer pay $50 to PPA to maintain our CPP designation and it goes to someone else?

KirkDarling
01-24-2010, 03:10 AM
So disappointed about this. Does this now mean we no longer pay $50 to PPA to maintain our CPP designation and it goes to someone else?

Kimberly,

The Professional Photographic Certification Commission is organized along with the same national standards system that governs other professional certifications. This removes any hint of "the old boys club" and makes it a more professional certification program.

This has changed both the requirements to some extent and even the way test questions are written and scored. Another change is that a photographer can be a "PPCC Certified Professional Photographer" without being a member of PPA (although PPA members do get a substantial break in the certification fee). It's not a club thing anymore.

This process actually began I think ten years ago, and the organizational transition is just about complete, although right now, PPA people are still doing a lot of the legwork.

Ed_Sharp
01-24-2010, 02:37 PM
To echo what Kirk posted, It seems to me that having The Professional Photographic Certification Commission in charge of CPP certification gives a CPP even more credibility in the big scheme of things. There are many professional photography organizations (ASMP,NPPA,SEP,etc) and their members all have to go through The Professional Photographic Certification Commission to be a CPP. It just seems like it covers a broader world of Photographers by removing it from the jurisdiction of the PPA. I think now we may see more NON portrait and wedding photographers seek this distinction, making it a more industry wide standard. There are Sports and commercial versions of the test available along with the Portrait version, I don't know if that is a recent addition but it seems to make sense to have the CPP cover those fields as well.

Michael_Gan
01-24-2010, 04:57 PM
Your right Ed. This is an objective of the commission. EPIC, the Evidence photographers, already have a certification system in place under the commission. PPA of course does, and we are putting together a judging pool for the SEP photographers (It's been a challenge both ways for our current judges to competently judge sports and events).

That is why we are in the process of expanding our judging pool.

Kimberly_Hill
01-30-2010, 03:02 PM
Thank you for the clarification, gentleman.

Michael_Gan
01-30-2010, 03:56 PM
Oh! But to answer your question...

As a member "benefit", PPA will continue to collect your certification fee for you.