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khierholzer
04-17-2009, 02:40 AM
I have never entered and really have no idea as to what would be the best image(s) to enter. More than anything, I want to have my work critiqued by an outside professional and grow. Here are some I am considering??? Sorry for so many, I just really have no idea where to start.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3448363939_8365c34331_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3569/3292202885_1dc5afcd12_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3359/3308345325_529202c0b8_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/1713874138_c9ba0ce187_o.jpg

khierholzer
04-17-2009, 02:43 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3340/3293023050_1d4f3b9970_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3584/3449197398_00fa3e2cb0_o.jpg

Keith_A_Howe
04-17-2009, 02:50 AM
Kelli, I am truly sorry, I am so swamped that I don't have time for in depth comments. Let me just say you should do well. I would suggest #1,3, 4 and 6 as the best choices. they need some tweaking but maybe someone else can give you suggestions.

Keith

Ashley_Short
04-17-2009, 06:46 AM
Kelli, you have some beautiful images. I love 1 & 4. So cute! I'd probably crop both of them a little bit though... #1 I'd crop a bit off of the right... there's a clump of something on the ground that I'd get rid of, cropping might be enough. Anyway, it would make the baby more off-center, and I think I'd like it better, personally.

The 4th one, I'd probably make more square b/c you really don't need the dead space on the left. In my opinion, it's not doing anything and the image is about the child's eyes. I would also PS in a little bit more room at the top for baby to grow.

I think the 2nd image is sooo cute (I bet it was a big seller!) I just don't know if the busy shirt and mixed keys will kill it or not.

Hopefully a few others will pipe in, I'm not the best cc-er.

Any title ideas yet?

Ashley

P.S. Welcome to the forum :)

khierholzer
04-17-2009, 02:45 PM
Thank you for your input and comments. I will look at re-working some of these...

MarilynDillon
04-17-2009, 09:31 PM
I am not the best to critique at this point - i am just entering my second state comp this year and am struggling choosing my prints. I do want to say, however, that i LOVE your style! very nice.

John_Metcalfe
04-17-2009, 10:30 PM
Do me a favor and squint your eyes almost closed while looking at your prints one at a time. If you see what you deem focal point of the subject first, great! If not, manipulate your image until it happens. Turn the image upside down to give you a new perspective.

Cheers!

khierholzer
04-19-2009, 04:12 AM
Ok, yikes. I have reworked these to a point where I feel good, now I have the matt to worry about? I posted some in another forum and was told that I need to move the images to a corner. I am fine with doing that except for the baby in the tub. I like it centered. I DO not like it in a corner....do I go with what is supposedly correct or with what I like? Help?http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3454703104_07af4d2a8d_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/3454703046_0d8a766f39_o.jpg

John_Metcalfe
04-19-2009, 05:59 AM
I see several things the judges can take points away for, but one thing at a time. Here is a rework of the positioning to get the subject in a desirable spot.

Cheers!

Rick_Massarini
04-20-2009, 07:01 AM
I see several things the judges can take points away for...

John, please understand that in this reply that I am not trying to be argumentative, but my initial reason for joining this forum a few years ago was to try to make sure that the information regarding the national judging, and the judging and scoring process as presented in this forum is as correct as possible. There are a lot of misconceptions, especially by newer members, about the whole judging and scoring process - so this is just a little clarification. Since I have been working at the national judging for so many years, I feel like I kind of owe it to the membership to pass on what I have learned there to help the rest of our members to fully understand how the judging and scoring system works.

At the National judging, the PPA jurors have only three scores for an image - Not Accepted, Merit, and Loan. There are no numerical scores used at the National Judging anymore. It was changed from numbers to Merit/Non-Merit about 10 years ago. At regional judgings, the numerical scores are still employed due to the regional need to award score based trophies.

Regarding the numerical scores, just in the line of clarification, PPA trained Jurors do not "take away points" for issues when judging an image. The PEC trains jurors to place the image into a classification first, then use the numerical scale within that category to indicate how close to the next category the image falls. They do not start with 100 points and take away points for this or that perceived issue.
For Example, when an image is presented, the juror will decide which category that he or she feels that image belongs - is it Below Average, Average, Above Average, Deserving of Merit, Excellent, Superior, or Exceptional? Just for example, let's say that an image is presented an the juror juror feels that it is an Excellent image and just slightly shy of being placed in the the Superior category - since the Excellent category has a numerical range of 89-85, then the juror would place his or her score on the high side of that range, giving the image an 88 or an 89. If the juror felt that the image had just barely made it into the Excellent category, then he or she would probably give the image an 85-86 score. Numbers are always used secondarily to categories.
The categories and numerical ranges are as listed below:
Exceptional 100-95
Superior 94-90
Excellent 89-85
Deserving of Merit 84-80
Deserving of Review 79-78
Above Average 77-76
Average 75-74
Acceptable 73-70
Below Exhibition Standards 69-00
Automatic Review 78-81

MarilynDillon
04-20-2009, 04:41 PM
Excellent clarification -- thank you!

andrearose3
04-21-2009, 03:23 AM
LOVE #6.... it's actually #2 on the "one more" thread. You have great style and I love how much emotion is in #6. It's very striking... great work! keep it up. ;D

khierholzer
04-23-2009, 09:07 PM
Thanks again for the comments. John, I agree with your placement and made that change...now we just have to see. I hope to learn from this first entry and improve as a photographer:)

khierholzer
01-25-2010, 03:54 AM
I am starting to think about the next competition and thought I would update here. The baby in the tub did not merit. The review said that the highlights on the foot of the tub did not correlate with the lack of light in the ground surrounding. I did dodge the highlights so that the feet of the tub wouldn't be lost, and I may have had mommy goggles on that one a little (I still love it). I also entered the baby on white and it did merit and was also chosen for the showcase book. The 6th image also received a merit. I really do appreciate the feedback here. It was my first competition and I was lost.

Keith_A_Howe
01-28-2010, 04:14 PM
Congrats Kelli
It's good that you are starting for this year. Do you know where and when your regional judging is held? It gives you another chance for the merits as well as more marketing potential from your competition.
Keith