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Jolene_Kroeger
04-29-2008, 09:30 PM
Ok, this is my first time entering into a print competition. I have gone thru some serious training and had some help over the past two years with critiquing my images. This is my third time/year selecting images for the competition and taking it this far. I am so hoping I am ready for this.

I have narrowed it down to 5 images, but truly want some honesty on the images and how they are matted. I am struggling with that part. I haven't come up with names yet either, but will work on that if you this is a real go.

Jolene_Kroeger
04-29-2008, 09:32 PM
here are the rest

Jolene_Kroeger
04-29-2008, 09:33 PM
the last one

Joe_Galioto
04-29-2008, 09:52 PM
jolene,
i'll start with: i like the last three the best.
the first one is a bit disconected and she looks like she's pushing away her mom.
the 2nd one because the colors of the blanket are soon bright, it distracts from the subject "the child"
joe

Keith_A_Howe
04-29-2008, 11:27 PM
I agree with Joe, the first one is your weakest as far as competition goes. All of the images appear way too light and somewhat cool on my moniter. Also the colors of the mats are distracting. I took the liberty of changing them so you can see the difference a little density and a different mat choice can make. Hope that was ok?
Keith

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/Jolene.jpg
This baby looked really pale, especially with the bright colored blanket. Adding density and changing the mat to black helps. It needs a title to explain why the bright colors are there - Like "Color My World"

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/Jolene2.jpg
The pose and expression of this child expresses saddness. By leaving more room around the child you add to that feeling and perpetuate the story of the image. I felt the original mat color was distracting.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/imager410/Jolene3.jpg
Again the light colored mat draws your eyes away from the subject. it pulls you outside the image. A darker mat holds you into the image. It also appeared very cool to me on my moniter so I warmed it up.

Jolene_Kroeger
04-30-2008, 05:55 PM
Thank you so much! That is type of honesty and suggestions I was looking for. I didn't realize they looked too cool either. Maybe I just don't see what everyone else sees.

I didn't realize that a very colorful image was not good to enter. I loved all the bright colors and her adorable little expression. That one really bums me.

Jolene_Kroeger
04-30-2008, 05:58 PM
Oh Keith...I forgot to ask...how in the world did you add all the room to the left of the image with the little girl and her yellow blankie? I can't figure out how to do that!! When I clone it, it looks terrrible.

Keith_A_Howe
04-30-2008, 06:25 PM
Jolene, It's not that a colorful image is bad, you just want to think about what you are trying to portray. In the baby image, the story is about that beautiful face, so the bright colors of the blanket pull your eyes away from the face. That's why you need a title that makes it about the colors. I would like a title that conveys the idea of a world full of colors, meaning ethnicities, and how every single one of those colors are a miricle. But niether Holly, my title guru, or myself can come up with an idea that says that succinctly.
The child where I stretched the background - I just used a marquee tool and edit transform. It looks ok in a small low res image. It wouldn't work for an actual print. The distortion would show. I was hoping you had more room on the original file or if not that it would remind you for the next time to leave some space.

Keith

Jolene_Kroeger
04-30-2008, 06:44 PM
what about these changes?

Jolene_Kroeger
04-30-2008, 06:46 PM
the other two

Jolene_Kroeger
04-30-2008, 06:47 PM
the colorful one

Jolene_Kroeger
04-30-2008, 06:52 PM
Keith - ok, I won't go forward with the colorful one.

I figure out how to stretch the background on the one image, but of course now what I am going to do for the actual print. I don't have that kind of room on the original image because with kids you never know what they will do. She started getting upset and ran to mom to get her blankie and just sat down and I snapped she was really close to my softbox and when I tried to move her over more...of course that shot was gone. What do you think I should do?

D._Craig_Flory
04-30-2008, 07:09 PM
Hi Jolene;

I'm going to talk about the little boy. The background is way too bright and needs to be toned down. Also, you have him too centered. In my example I have him on the 3rd quadrant. I hope this helps.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/Entry5ReWorked.jpg

D._Craig_Flory
04-30-2008, 07:23 PM
Hi Jolene;

On the expectant Mom, with kids, I find it to be a bit lacking in contrast. Here is how I see it including moving the subject layer. Also, in competition I don't favor a double accent line ... the less it is noticed the better.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/Entry1ReWorked.jpg

D._Craig_Flory
04-30-2008, 07:38 PM
Your 2nd version is better after getting rid of the screaming "look at me" background. However, placement is a problem ... it's way too far right. And I see it as a totally low key feeling. I hope this helps.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/Entry2ReWorked.jpg

D._Craig_Flory
04-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Hi Jolene;

Here is how I see the siblings image.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/Entry3ReWorked.jpg

D._Craig_Flory
04-30-2008, 08:05 PM
Hi Jolene;

Here's my take on what I feel is your best one.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DC47/Entry4ReWorked.jpg

Keith_A_Howe
04-30-2008, 09:40 PM
Keith - ok, I won't go forward with the colorful one.



Jolene, Sorry if I was not clear. I feel you should eliminate the two girls with pregnant tummy. I think that is the weakest. I don't know if the colorful one will be 80 or above, but I think with a thought provoking title it has a better shot than the pregnancy picture. I would not suggest you try to turn the highkey background into a low key one, unless you have amazing PS skills. I feel I am competant on PS and I wouldn't try it.

Keith