View Full Version : Getting ready for my first comp

02-25-2008, 02:58 PM
Here we go, in need of titles and critique...

2..enough said!


I have no title idea


18 and unstoppable

02-25-2008, 03:00 PM



02-25-2008, 03:05 PM
I think the last one is your strongest. The conversion looks a bit muddy to me though. I would also touch up around the eyes and get rid of the bottom catchlight. You also want to make sure the iris/pupil difference is discernible, so you may want to dodge a bit there.

02-25-2008, 03:28 PM
Hi Andrea;

Since you are in Ohio ... are these choices for Mid-East Regional ? If so, you already have them printed and ready to hand deliver for tomorrow's deadline.

My favorite four are #1 , #2, #5, & #6.

If these are not for Mid-East, I'll make some suggestions on presentation and such. Either way ... good luck !!!

02-25-2008, 03:30 PM
Andrea just take what I have to say with a grain of salt since I am entering for the first time myself.

Image 1- Very cute and I have loved this series since you first posted. First, I watched a local judging the other night and a lady had a beautiful family portrait where there was a fair amount of pink in the portrait so she used that for her mat background. The judges loved the portrait but hated the pink mat. The reason was the pink drew their eyes right to the mat instead of the portrait. It didn't merit. My suggestion would be to take that pink and tone it way way down so the three panel portraits jump out. Seondly, is there any way you can get the image in the middle to match the head size of the other two? To me it would be stronger if all three matched. MHO

I'm not crazy about tattoo guy. Two conflicting centers of interest, his eyes and the tattoo.

The little girl in the white fur I love this. However, to me you moved her to the bottom of the mat which puts her eyes in the middle of the mat. I would move her up to try and get her eyes on that upper one third quadrant for a more appealing presentation.

Okay so I said my two cents here and that ain't worth a whole lot to some but it's just my observations. Good luck!

02-25-2008, 05:56 PM
These are nice, Andrea. I think of this set I'd use the bottom 5 (for NH, where we can only enter 5 this year.) You will want to print the little girl down quite a bit or there will be no detail left in the fuzzy part of her hat under the lights, and you'll want to see the detail.

02-25-2008, 06:56 PM
Thank you for your comments. I appreciate them very much!

Mark..I shoud probably know this..but when you say print down the white fur...what does that mean?

02-25-2008, 07:26 PM
Hi Andrea;

You didn't answer my question about where you were planning on entering but, if you are making notes of advice about making changes I guess you are not entering Ohio.

02-25-2008, 07:29 PM
Hey D. Craig, I missed that question. It is not for Ohio...I am not ready for that, this will be for April, so I still have time:)

02-25-2008, 07:33 PM
I also agree with the above comments...I DO think the last image is your strontest, maybe burn down the image big time, remove all of the catch lights except for the ones @ 2 :00 really do what you can to drive the viewers eye in to that upper right quadrant.. I see lots of leading lines, although too many distractions getting you there. the Biggerst distraction is the "lace" on her veil running wild through the image...title?

02-25-2008, 08:07 PM
Hi Andrea;

Here is how I see the bride with the intense eyes.


02-26-2008, 04:06 PM
Just got your PM, I have not read all the post so if I repeat others or any thing I appologize.
Here goes
1- I am not sure about the pink mat, It makes the skintones look too majenta or pink on my monitor. In this presentation I think I would like the head sizes the same, not sure till I would see it. Bring the eyes out more with out over doing it. Title - something like " We are probably gonna have to rescheduale"

2- Holly's title - "With this ring". Holly said it's kinda trite but it works with this image and this is not a print that needs a great title to sell it. Print it down more (go to levels, take the midtones down to .65 then go to color balance and add 5 red and 10 yellow to the shadows, midtones and highlights. When i looked at the image the ring appears a little soft, it is probably just the low res file but sharpen just the ring if nesc. There are two threads sticking out from the ribbon, one on the right and one on the left - get rid of both of them. It's a little thing but it's such an easy fix that it won't be "forgiven" for not doing so.

3- I would suggest printing it darker about 15 %, and less retouched - his skin looks too smooth for a guy with a panther tat. Title " Wild Things"

4- I like this image, I would take the levels shaddows down to 10 or 13. I think I would like a very subtle shadow between the edge effect and the mat. Again is it sharp? Title - Sentinel

I gotta get going now so I will continue tonight when I get home.

02-26-2008, 04:24 PM
#2..remove extraneous strings at R&L side of the white wrap.
#4..improve the blend transition between sky and white BG..be sure it is sharp.
#6..clean up secondary catchlights; remove stray hairs at her right temple..try PS softlight to add punch.

02-27-2008, 01:49 AM
Home now.
5- Needs to be printed down quite a bit. I would crop Horz. I will show my suggestions for you. Note your catch lights in the eyes were on the wrong side of her face for the lighting pattern (modified butterfly) I snapped up the eyes as well as the hair. I also brought in a bit more detail (very subtly) in the fur. Holly's title ideas - Snow bunny - Christmasy sounding name like Noel - Chill Chaser . . .

6- Here is my take on the bride. I brought out her eyes to add drama and impact, I worked her catch lights and crescents. I retouched her a bit and dodged out the veil just a bit. Then I burned in her lips (with shadows only) so that there is added impact of the veil over her face where it just touches the lips. I very carefully brought out the lighting pattern as well as brought out the hilights in her hair. I like her a bit smaller in the frame and with the black mat color (I know this is contrary to what I suggest for most light toned images but it helps bring out the eyes and hair. After looking at the my post I think I should have the catchlights a bit higher in her eye. Title - Alluring or Alluring Eyes. . . Good Luck Keith


02-27-2008, 03:28 AM
Andrea - good luck with these - I'm glad you are entering - it's so fun, and you will learn so much. I have no advice to give on comp prints - I've only entered twice. But I just wanted to say I think they all look great, and you should do well. I really love the little girl in the white fur - it makes me think of the movie "It's a Wonderful Life". It just really reminds me of Christmas!

02-27-2008, 04:37 AM
Andrea you have some really nice images here and I am so excited for you. I know you will do very well on your first competition. Well done and I will be anxious to hear your results. You go girl!

02-27-2008, 04:54 AM
Yeah, Andrea!!! Way to go, girl!

02-27-2008, 06:23 AM
Nice work Angela! ... the girl in the white hat is a winner, imo (based on my whopping 3 print comp experiences if one includes this year :-) )

02-27-2008, 12:30 PM
Thanks everybody for your advice and encouragement. I sure hope this comp thing gets easier the more you do it.:o I will be taking these to the NH conference so I can enter among friends. I will work on the suggestions and I will report back how I did.

02-27-2008, 02:52 PM
Yes, we at the NH conference will report during the conference and not keep you all in suspense like those meanies at the VPPA! :D